[69 RA GTO]

Doug,

The more I thought about it, the more pissed off I got about it and decided to envolve the Police.... Sorry I am human and change my Mind.

Consideration???? I just got the car back. If you still want to buy it check the for sale section as you are more then welcome to still buy it. I figured you moved on since you said you had another one lined up and its been 7 months. It was STOLEN a couple days before you came up here, I called you as soon as I found out, I returned your $100 Deposit ASAP to you, I called the police and got them envolved, someone tipped them off, they cought the stupid punk kids that stole it, I got my shell back. I told you I was very sorry, what more could I have done? Nothing that I am aware of.

It appears you are still angry about this, I am truley SORRY as it was out of my control as I did not ask for this to happen. If you want to talk more about this you are more then welcome to give me a shout and we can go from there. The car is for sale and you are more then welcome to purchase it if you are still interested.

Sorry Again,
Tim

[PonchoV8]

I'm welcome to give you almost double the original agreed to price IOW. Something tells me I'm not getting what I bargained for. I spent hours and hours stripping this frame for a car you said was mine--that I paid a deposit on. Now it's sitting outside wasting space, I've wasted several weekends removing parts and now you want to tell me to give you $1500 for a shell I already bought for $800 once?

[Ron Landis]

you boys need to settle this in private. Poncho, you weren't the least bit considerate of him losing the car and he DID return your deposit, so it seems like your say in the matter is history. If you were ready to junk the frame, doesn't sound like you had much invested anyway and now, by rights, the car should be registered as a theft recovery, right? Why would you want it anyway? Just trying to understand how you are the victim here. Makes me no nevermind. Ron

[PonchoV8]

Originally Posted by jegstek

you boys need to settle this in private. Poncho, you weren't the least bit considerate of him losing the car and he DID return your deposit, so it seems like your say in the matter is history. If you were ready to junk the frame, doesn't sound like you had much invested anyway and now, by rights, the car should be registered as a theft recovery, right? Why would you want it anyway? Just trying to understand how you are the victim here. Makes me no nevermind. Ron

No other people need to know the deal with this car and this guy. I spent HOURS every weekend and after work missing an annual family birthday event because of what happened--not to mention the two days I took off of work for stripping to make it by the deadline--all the way to headliner rods I stripped it. I paid to store a car I had on my trailer so that I could pick up my lemans to strip down to the frame--so that I would have something to put this GTO shell on. I spent $2000 on another car just to help with parts for this shell to make it complete. My wife is not at all happy with Tim about us missing that event because of this guy and his deal. You want to tell me exactly why he wouldn't report the thing stolen? He lost nothing and now he's back up and running doubling his price now that things have cooled off. How is that an injury for him? I was injured. If you had sense, you'd see that I'm the only person that posted that the car was stolen. He wouldn't even report it stolen to the police after I paid on the car. Why is that? I find that curious. You have some other point you want to be wrong about?

After the theft, I had to unload the stripped frame in my driveway to go get the $2000 car in Nashville to take to someone else that agreed to buy it on payments to recoup my money--since I couldn't use the car anymore--just so I could go get my 70 out of paid storage to keep on my trailer where it is still sitting.

There's more!In mid Feb when we cut this deal, this guy wasted a bunch of my time telling me all about the car. I spent time talking to him on the telephone and going round and round about all the details, then when I told him I'm ready to commit to buy it, he claimed someone else was wanting to buy it and he wanted to talk to this guy first. WTF?! That was the clue I should have taken to walk away. When I told him I didn't like wasting my time for a car that isn't for sale, he told me what I wanted to hear I guess. He told me he'd sell me the car for sure "It's your's".. So I said fine, how much money up front. He said none. Well that's weird. No money yet? Maybe it isn't mine then. Maybe he's going to wait on the other guy? I explained that if I don't have to pay a deposit how do I know we've got a deal? I explained later that I have to strip a car to the frame for the shell he has--I don't want to waste my time on a chance it's not official. So he agreed to $100 and $700 on pickup. Tim told me he's needing money in his personal life (but didn't want my deposit?). I sent a check out with the memo stating it was for the exact car--he cashed it so it was official. Oh yeah, earlier he sent a scan of a title that didn't match the VIN (blue colored)--then he sent a title that did match (duplicate) and explained that he mistakenly sent a title from a parts car. More strange stuff, I'm leary but believed him at that point even though he's acting flaky. I sent money out on March 1st and started stripping my lemans to the frame in my free time.
I bought another complete Warwick Blue 69 GTO auto with a a 4 spd console and pedals with some trim for $2000 so that I could use that car for more parts to make it complete. So time goes on and he emails me that now his dad wants this thing out of his shop. I said okay I'll be there the weekend following the upcoming one. No problem he said, it was his dad complaining or it would be fine. The next week I emailed him that I'm coming for sure that weekend. Then he emailed me back that the shell got stolen and he isn't going to report it stolen. It isn't even titled in his name. I should've expected the car to 'disappear'. Too many strange things.

I called him and he reiterated that he will not be reporting it stolen. I have a recording of the phone call for proof. I listened to it just last week. Very strange, and I suspected what really happened is that it isn't really stolen. He either was trying to get me to walk away from my deposit--because someone else is on the hook for the car, or there is a problem with the title. So what the hell am I going to do with all this crap for a car that got stolen from me too--not to mention the hours I put into stripping the frame, storing the parts, buying a $2000 car hours away, putting my 70 in storage? He sent my deposit back--Oh yeah, I had to email a second time to get it rolling though.

So I posted here about the car being stolen while I waited nicely for my deposit. He still didn't report it stolen. He oddly wasn't concerned enough to report it with the law--he didn't even post here. He said on the phone that it was okay that I did post here though. Thanks--seeing as how I have paid money on the car.
And yet somehow the police find a car, decide the car was stolen and return to a person that it isn't titled to? Yeah right! This smells and you other people have been informed of my experience. Anybody keeping track of just how much I put into this deal and now it's back for sale?

Tell you what, next time you go to the move into a new place, spend the time taking out the old stuff instead of attending an annual birthday event, renting storage, bagging up all the old stuff that you'll need for the new stuff, buy an extra car, send off your money and then find out later that you wasted your time because someone claims it's not available anymore, let me know how you feel. Then consider that the seller won't report it stolen. Oh, but I can buy it [b]again[b/]--at double the price. That ought to make it all better.


Now surprise, surprise, the car turns back and his buddy Ron attacks the guy that got it broken off in him.
Tim, you ranted on this site about how Pontiac people suck. You said you were selling your stuff and leaving the Pontiac world because of those people. Guess who you are?