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Old 05-20-2008, 10:48 PM
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So can the #1 wire be any where on the cap as long as all wires are in the correct order ?

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Old 05-21-2008, 12:36 AM
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So can the #1 wire be any where on the cap as long as all wires are in the correct order ?
Yes, as long as the engine is timed and you maintain the 18436572 CC firing order you can designate any terminal at #1. BUT if you ordered plug wires specific for your engine and year you may run into some head aches trying to get the plug wires installed as you will end up with the wrong lengths. Tailored wire sets are designed to work with the factory #1 terminal positon on the cap. JD

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Old 05-21-2008, 07:27 AM
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Doesn't the rotor always point in the same direction at tdc ?

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Old 05-21-2008, 08:32 AM
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Doesn't the rotor always point in the same direction at tdc ?
You can install the distributor with the rotor in any position.

Let's say we walk up to a freshly assembled engine installed in a vehicle and install the distributor in the engine and start the engine.

First thing we need to determine is which stroke #1 cylinder is on and where the damper line is in relation to the timing marks. You can do this several ways. One way is to put a paper or your finger in the spark plug hole and have someone crank over the engine (ignition disabled) slowly. When the compression starts to build and blows out the paper, or pushes your finger away, you are on the compression stroke. Simply rotate crank in a clockwise manner until the mark on the damper lines up with the 12 BTDC timing mark. Now #1 cylinder is 12 degrees before top dead center on the compression stroke which is a good position for the plug to fire. You can also pull a valve cover and watch the valves while you rotate the crank. If you rotate the crank clockwise, when the intake valve closes the engine is on the compression stroke. Simply keep slowly turning the crank clockwise until the damper line is at 12 BTDC.

We install the distributor so it is fully seated, regardless of rotor position. The rotor can be installed in any position because we are going to position the wires on the cap according to where the rotor is pointing when installed. Whatever terminal on the cap the rotor points to is going to be #1, since #1 is in position to fire (12 BTDC of the compression stroke). Then just install the wire for the next cylinder in the firing order (18436572) on the next counterclockwise terminal. Once all the wires are on the engine is ready to fire and set the timing with a timing light.

In a different test, the rule is, the wires have to remain installed on the cap in the exact position they are installed at all times. That means the rotor must be aligned with the current #1 terminal on the cap, so when #1 is 12 degrees BTDC of the compression stroke, the rotor must point to the #1 wire on the cap.

Either way will work, but personal preference of the placement of the wires, factory correctness, wire length, wire routing, and the location of the vacuum advance can all are factors in the installation of the distributor and the cap and wires.


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No. there are 8 cylinders but 13 gear teeth. You can get the rotor out of phase with the post on the cap.

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