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The old Landcruiser 6 banger sure has a striking resemblence to the old Stovebolt Chebby'
So much in fact, I converted it to a GM HEI I pulled off a 77 Nova inline 6. All I had to do was swap the gear and have the flange machined off. I believe the oil pump is a bolt on too. The one I pulled from my cruiser has well over 300K on it.

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The Toyota engine was knock off of the Chevy, GM sued them and collected fees for every one sold.

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I had a 1982 Suburban with a 6.2. I bought it in '89 with a blown engine, the oil plug got left out at Jiffy Lube and it still went 20 miles before it broke! When I got all I could find was an engine from a medium duty truck, I used that, got a buddy that worked for Mack to tune it for me. That thing would smoke a 454 3/4 ton truck, both figuratively and literally! It was a 4x4 and would smoke the rear 32/12.50 BFG's with only 3.42 gears. It had a 700R4 from the factory but the torque killed 3 of them so I went to a t-400 until I got a pro built 700. A couple of years later a hurricane dropped a huge limb on the truck and totalled it. I put the whole drivetrain in my '75 Scout II. Talk about a beach burner!!!

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The Toyota engine was knock off of the Chevy, GM sued them and collected fees for every one sold.
Except the "knockoff" was much more reliable than the original

Have a link to where they sued?

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Except the "knockoff" was much more reliable than the original

Have a link to where they sued?
Sorry, this is all I could find and the link is dead;
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Old Iron - Off-Road Adventures Magazine
... Land Cruiser engine could be considered a copy of an early 1930s Chevy six, ... 236.6ci OHV 6-cylinder. Power: 135 @ 3800 rpm. Torque: 217 lbs-ft @ 2000 ...
http://www.oramagazine.com/pastIssue...-old-iron.html - Cached

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Sorry, this is all I could find and the link is dead;
I have seen many variations of that, and believe that it is a copy as well of the chevy inline 6. I, nor any of my cruiser enthusiast pals have ever seen any factual account of a lawsuit, despite hearing claims once in awhile. Just curious about a missing piece of history.

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I have seen many variations of that, and believe that it is a copy as well of the chevy inline 6. I, nor any of my cruiser enthusiast pals have ever seen any factual account of a lawsuit, despite hearing claims once in awhile. Just curious about a missing piece of history.
Didnt the Toyota engine come out in the 50s ? It looks alot more like the "Stovebolt" Chebbys (216,235,292) which had 4 main bearings vs. the 7 main bearings used in the '62 & later 194,202 (Sold in the UK),215,230,250 and 292 cid engines.

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Didnt the Toyota engine come out in the 50s ? It looks alot more like the "Stovebolt" Chebbys (216,235,292) which had 4 main bearings vs. the 7 main bearings used in the '62 & later 194,202 (Sold in the UK),215,230,250 and 292 cid engines.
I know they imported the fj25 in 58'

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Gas Land Cruiser engines are manufactured by Toyota. The F and 2F engines were also used in Toyota Forlifts. The F engine is supposed to be based on the Chevy 225 I-6 "Cast Iron Wonder" and some of the bottom end of the engine is rumored to be interchangeable. The main differences between the F and the 2F are the 2F's larger bore, the F's 2 compression and 2 oil rings versus the 2F's 2 compression and single oil ring and the fact that the F had two oil paths--through the filter or through the engine compared to the 2F where all oil had to travel through the filter before the engine.

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I rebuilt the 6.2 in my K5 Blazer. It's a bored 6.2L short block, with 6.5TD heads, a 6.5TD injection pump, non-egr intake, and a much improved cooling system (6.5 water pump, twin t-stat crossover). It also has the Banks Sidewinder turbo and exhaust system on it.

The truck is an 83 K5 Blazer, D60 front, 700-r4, 14 bolt FF rear, 37" swampers, I had it on a scale and it weighs in at 6500 lbs with me in it.

My advice: Stay away from the 6.2. The blocks break, even at stock power levels. The cranks break at stock power levels. ALL the heads have cracks in them. They don't make much power without a turbo, and they blow the head gaskets when you put one on. Yeah, I get up to 20 MPG, but that's probably because I had to turn the fuel way down to keep the EGTs under control at WOT.

To put it in perspective: My 6.2 makes respectable power, for a 6.2. Not too long ago I was following my dad (stock 97 F250 powerstroke). We both stopped at the bottom of a long hill and then took off. I had the pedal floored and he still quickly pulled away from me and wasn't even trying. The kicker was that he was pulling a car on a trailer and I wasn't towing anything.

I'll run this 6.2 until it explodes, then I'll look into a 6BT swap.

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So much in fact, I converted it to a GM HEI I pulled off a 77 Nova inline 6. All I had to do was swap the gear and have the flange machined off. I believe the oil pump is a bolt on too. The one I pulled from my cruiser has well over 300K on it.
Just curious, where did you find the information on putting the HEI in the cruiser engine?

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Just curious, where did you find the information on putting the HEI in the cruiser engine?
It's very simple really. Get the HEI off of a GM inline 6 engine. I pulled mine off of a 77 Nova in a junk yard.

Then you just need to swap the gear for a Toyota gear, and machine the "lip" off of the dizzy shaft so the shaft will engage the oil pump. Make up some kind hold down tab and you are done.

Do you have a cruiser? I have the distributor still.

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It's very simple really. Get the HEI off of a GM inline 6 engine. I pulled mine off of a 77 Nova in a junk yard.

Then you just need to swap the gear for a Toyota gear, and machine the "lip" off of the dizzy shaft so the shaft will engage the oil pump. Make up some kind hold down tab and you are done.

Do you have a cruiser? I have the distributor still.
About 8 years ago, I made a web page with instructions for putting an HEI into a 2F. I was wondering if you were one of the page visitors who tried it.

I didn't remove the lip on mine and didn't have any problems.

I've had 3 FJ40s, but none now. On my website I've got a few old FJ40 modification pages that I wrote.

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About 8 years ago, I made a web page with instructions for putting an HEI into a 2F. I was wondering if you were one of the page visitors who tried it.

I didn't remove the lip on mine and didn't have any problems.

I've had 3 FJ40s, but none now. On my website I've got a few old FJ40 modification pages that I wrote.
What's your website? I may have checked it, who knows, it was about 7 years ago when I did it.

The lip on mine wouldn't allow it to seat all the way down, weird.

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