[Rack776]

Hey, Hey, Hey! It's called Stellar Blue!
1975's already dont get enugh respect, now you want
to push a 1974 color on us! (lol just kidding!)

Yeah it's a great color though, I always wanted
to see what a 1976 would look like in that blue.
It's darker than the 1979 & up cars were painted

Is the paint formula the same from 1974-1975?
or did they change the color & the name?

P.S. Great looking Wheels on the 74, I wanted
a cast look American Racing 200s for mine in 15"
When I bought them Polished was all that was offered
and they are too pretty to paint over so I left them shiny.

I tried for years to find original CP200s but all the ones
at the swap meets were beat up bad or 14" so I went
with brand new ones for the sake of safety.


I got to take some better photos of mine and post em' here.

[1qikta]

Originally Posted by Rack776

Hey, Hey, Hey! It's called Stellar Blue!
1975's already dont get enugh respect, now you want
to push a 1974 color on us! (lol just kidding!) Is the paint formula the same from 1974-1975? or did they change the color & the name

Is the '75 a code 29? Thats the '74 code.

[Rack776]

Originally Posted by 1qikta

Is the '75 a code 29? Thats the '74 code.

I'm 99% sure it's #29, are the formulas to mix the paint the same?
I hope it's the same as 74 admirility blue, I really like that color, it's
not too Greenish like the 79 & up navy blue. It almost looks black
some times.

Does anyone have the paint mix formulas for
1974 Admirility Blue or 1975 Stellar Blue?

[1qikta]

Originally Posted by Rack776

Does anyone have the paint mix formulas for
1974 Admirility Blue or 1975 Stellar Blue?

Here is the Admiralty Blue (CODE 29):

BC2526A PPG

Code -- Color -- cumulative -- parts

D754 -- BLUE -- 95.0 -- 95.0
D740 -- BLACK -- 105.1 -- 10.1
D759 -- MATT BAS -- 112.7 -- 7.6
D772 -- COARSE A -- 120.3 -- 7.6
D755 -- VIOLET -- 126.3 -- 6.0
D753 -- WHITE -- 127.0 -- 0.7

[Rack776]

Thanks! It'll be a big help when I get arround to painting mine.

[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by Rack776

...P.S. Great looking Wheels on the 74, I wanted
a cast look American Racing 200s for mine in 15"
When I bought them Polished was all that was offered
and they are too pretty to paint over so I left them shiny.

I tried for years to find original CP200s but all the ones
at the swap meets were beat up bad or 14" so I went
with brand new ones for the sake of safety...

Not sure if the colors were the same in '74 and '75. Actually I didn't even know they had different names. My car can look deep purple or even black depending on the light.

As far as the wheels goes I bought them from American that way back about 4 years ago I think it was. They weren't offered in that finish in the catalog but they made them that way for me. I had to have them that way, that's the way they looked in the old days other than the polished rim. I had someone at a car show a few years ago tell me that he had tried to get them that way from American and he couldn't. I don't know about that because you can see there they are. God knows they might be the only ones like that?I hope not because all that means to me is someone will try to steal them with my luck.

[Rack776]

Thanks again for the paint info, mine looks more purpleish black sometimes too,
I wonder if you parked the 2 years together if you would notice a difference.
I have seen a few 1974 T/As painted a lighter brighter blue (like 75 Bimini Blue) and I always thought that color was Admirility Blue, I guess the cars I saw were painted wrong.

I have seen the 16" & up sizes of those wheels in a cast look finish before,
just not the 15" sizes, Maybee by now the make them, I found on the summit
racing web site the old style ARE plastic hex center caps, so I bought a set
and they fit great and give that 70s-80s look to the wheels, If I want 90s
Billit look I can just switch the caps back. The only bummer is the older wheels
have a thicker cast aluminum lip like the torque thrusts have and the new ones
have a thinner spun aluminum lip.

[Lloyd-TX]

Was going through PILES of old photos yesterday and found some of my old faves of my '75 "SD" T/A.

I'll be scanning and posting as I have time, here's a sample.

[Lloyd-TX]

A few more.

Y'all lemme know if I'm boring you.

[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by Rack776

...I have seen the 16" & up sizes of those wheels in a cast look finish before, just not the 15" sizes, Maybee by now the make them, I found on the summit racing web site the old style ARE plastic hex center caps, so I bought a set and they fit great and give that 70s-80s look to the wheels, If I want 90s
Billit look I can just switch the caps back. The only bummer is the older wheels
have a thicker cast aluminum lip like the torque thrusts have and the new ones
have a thinner spun aluminum lip.

Oh, so the 15's in the cast finish are the ones that are hard to find. That's a good idea with the center caps. You can play with the look of the car with an easy quick change. If you're at a car show and someone happens to show up with another TA like yours it will be easy to fix that in a couple minutes. Not that at any average (non Pontiac specific) car show you really ever even see more than one or two second gen TA's. I think I see more first gen Firebirds at car shows than I do second gen TA's, for that matter even second gen Camaros. I remember when it seemed like every other car on the road was a second gen. F-body. What happened to them all? Why is it the second gen Camaros even seem (to me anyway) scarce compared to the first gen cars. Was it because they didn't sell as many or was it because they just didn't hold peoples imagination like the first gen car OR am I just going crazy?

[oldblueponcho]

I thought I'd do a bit of an update on mine. Here it is just after I painted it about a week ago. Now all that's left is to paint the bumpers and a few other small pieces, then put it all back together, lol. I hope it looks ok.

[Rack776]

Originally Posted by uneasyrider

Oh, so the 15's in the cast finish are the ones that are hard to find. That's a good idea with the center caps. You can play with the look of the car with an easy quick change. If you're at a car show and someone happens to show up with another TA like yours it will be easy to fix that in a couple minutes. Not that at any average (non Pontiac specific) car show you really ever even see more than one or two second gen TA's. I think I see more first gen Firebirds at car shows than I do second gen TA's, for that matter even second gen Camaros. I remember when it seemed like every other car on the road was a second gen. F-body. What happened to them all? Why is it the second gen Camaros even seem (to me anyway) scarce compared to the first gen cars. Was it because they didn't sell as many or was it because they just didn't hold peoples imagination like the first gen car OR am I just going crazy?

No your not crazy they made more of them but most are gone due to
a lack of people caring about them & stuff like this at the bottom Ugh!

I rember when the junk yards were full of them and parts were still hard to find
because high school kids hacked up anything that was usable for the interiors
with speaker holes or added scoops & flairs to the outsides.

I always saw more 77-81 camaros than birds back in the day,
I think I read somewhere that they built like 9 camaros
for every 1-2 firebirds of the 2nd gen.

In the 1980s-1990s "true musscle cars" up to 1972
were all the rage and any thing that was considered
a "smog slug" was beat on & modified till it died. usually the guy would
just get another car and start over.

I bought my 75 455 T/A with no rust all numbers matching for about
$2,500 in 1998 and that was considered too much to pay for
a 70s T/A back then. My 75 base bird was $1,100 and had like
2 car loads of spare parts with it. My buddys laughed cause it
had the "crappy pontiac motor" and parts cost way more than chevy parts.
they always said it would never go fast cause it cost too much.

People would give those cars away for like $500 and High School kids would
buy them & finish them off.
I know at least 2 guys I went to school with who between the 2 of them
must have wrecked 8 79-81 camaros & 3 Monte Carlo SS's.

Back then everyone either wanted a 67-69 camaro or a 86-92 camaro
or T/A GTA anything in the middle was considered disposable junk.

I'm glad I grabbed mine when I did, the prices are really going up now
and parts are getting harder to find.

Also arround here they still use the 70-81 camaros & firebirds at
the local dirt circle track, for a street stock class. I breaks my
heart to see 77-81 T/As & Z-28s cut up & painted like Demo Derby cars.
With amature hill billys beating the crap out of them, I'd take photos but it's
kinda gruesome even to see them on a trailer going down the road.
I think they are a big reason fenders & doors are VERY hard to get arround here.

[Rack776]

Here's a weird one on eBay right now
1975 Base Model Firebird
1968 Buick 350 Turbo 400
1980 4 wheel Disk Brake Posi
1983 Knight Rider Style Wheels

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ponti...spagenameZWDVW

If it really is in good shape body wise I'd be torn between using it as a parts car
or building a pontiac powered daily driver out of it. I guess I'd I'd keep it all together
and sell the buick & use the disk brakes on a T/A.

I have a big soft spot for base model Firebirds.

Anyone ever drive or own a 6 cyl 2nd gen bird? I saw only one in a junk yard once.
I cant even imagine the suckieness of the rate of acceleration, must be painfull
to get one up to 55mph.

[Rack776]

I'm looking for ideas on what color interior I should put in my 75 firebird,
Anyone have good photos of some standard two tone interiors?
(Like all black with Tan or Red seats ect.)

I'm also craving some photos of Basemodel Firebirds of all years 70-81
Anyone got any to send me? I'm kicking arround the idea of turning
my formula clone back into a base model bird, I dont know why I just
think it's cool to see one not as a T/A or Formula lately.

Anyone got a flat 75 hood they would like to give away?

[uneasyrider]

Originally Posted by Rack776

No your not crazy they made more of them but most are gone due to
a lack of people caring about them & stuff like this at the bottom Ugh!...

I kind 'a figure that must bee it. I was one of those high school kids hacking up those cars back in the late '70's early '80's. The car you see below was bought by a friend of mine (Hi Chris if your out there in TV land) back in '84 from the second owner who had tried (from what I can tell) to make it a "Bandit" car. I got the PH papers for it and from what I can tell it didn't come with a bird so "they" put a gold bird and some snow flakes on it. Somewhere along the line they put a 1970 RAIII engine in it too which back when we were stupid 19yr old kids we didn't know about we just thought someone had put a cam and headers on the car and that's why it ran better than a stock '74 would have. I didn't find out what the engine really was until 2002 when I started to get the car rebuilt. I had already bought all the parts and had all the machine work done to the engine before I truly realized what I had or I would have just sold the whole thing (engine) on eBay. As it is I sold the heads and manifold off it for $850 and the carb (7040273) for $2775 and the carb appeared to have the incorrect base plate, possibly off the original '74 carb. That helped a bunch since I was laid off at the time!