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#1
11-14-2008, 04:12 PM
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Welcome back BVZ, good to hear from you again.
BJ
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1971 GTO 455 HO 4-speed - Cameo White, White Vinyl Top, Jade Green Interior, Ram Air Hood, AC, Honeycombs and 8-track 1974 Formula 455 I Owned in 1975-1976. Now Own Its Twin From Same Dealership 
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#2
11-15-2008, 11:49 AM
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BVZ: Sorry to hear about your computer troubles. Are you sure it's this site that causes your problems, or have you been lookin' where you shouldn't be? LOL
One correction on your post, my car is a 69, midnight green. You were very close. I am glad an all around good guy like you with so much knowledge is back. |
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#3
11-15-2008, 01:55 PM
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Hello there BJ
Sawyer, you mean you don't have a Green 70 IV Judge ? Well then get busy ! lol The porn sites always function fine and easy  it was just this one giving me the trouble |
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12-06-2008, 08:40 AM
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Two other finished engines I picked up yesterday. The 389 is for my Maize '65 vert, the ram air III is for my '70 red auto judge.
I'd say pretty damn good numbers for the III, hard to believe that an air conditioning belt on the previous III would rob that much HP, but remember everything is hooked up. The two engines otherwise were built identically.   DW
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71 SILVER AUTO JUDGE 70 RED AUTO III JUDGE 70 GOLD AUTO III JUDGE 70 SPECIAL ORDER SABLE BLACK 4SPEED III JUDGE 70 ATOLE BLUE AUTO GTO 69 C.RED 4SPEED III JUDGE 67 WHITE 4SPEED 400 VERT FIREBIRD 65 MAIZE 4SPEED TRIPOWER VERT GTO 65 TURQ. 4SPEED TRIPOWER VERT GTO WANTING A IV...... 20 other non-pontiacs which need to be thinned down so I can buy more PONTIACS |
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12-06-2008, 12:03 PM
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Cool numbers, Doug
 I take it the 389 had that Comp Cam in it, what cam is in the RA III?
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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#6
12-06-2008, 03:51 PM
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I think Doug said he built them all the same as far as Cam, C/R, Balancing and hardened seats.
I'd be sweetly pleased with all the 400 and the 455 numbers. Without ANY belts and the timing put up to 32, i bet the 400's would go 400 hp. I'm kinda sorta bummed a little on these 389's. Supposed to be 360 hp. Without belts, and timing bumped up to 32, maybe the Reef engine would put 360 on the sheet. I was just expecting more. Not expecting RA3 hp match, but closer than what they did. Am i clear in understanding these all had alt and pwr str belts in place during test ? (and Sable had a-c belt) Very interesting data Doc. Thanks for sharing. Its about as honest of a comparison as anyone could hope for. Neat Stuff. Doug, any thoughts why the Reef and Mayfair engines have as much spread on output ? 454tq/345hp vs. 414tq/323hp |
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#7
12-06-2008, 04:11 PM
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Reef is stroked.
Other than the maize car,all other engines have the same hydraulic rollers. Everything is hooked up on these dudes. Should have some of these engines installed in chassis pretty quick and I'll post pics. I've had them built to stay together, obviously there is room to play, but I'll build some others in the future to play, these are too valuable to monkey with in my opinion. DW
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71 SILVER AUTO JUDGE 70 RED AUTO III JUDGE 70 GOLD AUTO III JUDGE 70 SPECIAL ORDER SABLE BLACK 4SPEED III JUDGE 70 ATOLE BLUE AUTO GTO 69 C.RED 4SPEED III JUDGE 67 WHITE 4SPEED 400 VERT FIREBIRD 65 MAIZE 4SPEED TRIPOWER VERT GTO 65 TURQ. 4SPEED TRIPOWER VERT GTO WANTING A IV...... 20 other non-pontiacs which need to be thinned down so I can buy more PONTIACS |
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