[gearbanger]

Has anyone raced their car like you drive it on the street? I like to compare my car to the new performance cars like Corvettes, Vipers, GT500s and all that, so i run it on regular street tires, full exhaust, sway bars hooked up, everything just like I drive it.

My best is a 12.56 @114 with a 2.05 60ft

My basic combo is a 67 GTO at 3550 lbs
461 KRE d-ports 455 RWHP
hyd roller
TKO 600
3.73 rear
295/45/18 Nitto 555 (non drag)

Please list your combo too.

[rockertype]

Um . . this is the "race" section. Sounds like you're talking about streetcars there.

[goatless]

Originally Posted by rockertype

Um . . this is the "race" section. Sounds like you're talking about streetcars there.

Yes, but he's talking about RACING his street car.

Gearbanger, are you looking for times from street cars or any car running a non-drag tire? There's 'Vette running in F.A.S.T. that gone 10.30 @130 on repro Firestone Wide-Ovals.

Then there's the guy from Ohio, I can't remember his name, that has a '78 Catalina sleeper that's been in the 10's on a set of Walmart white wall radials.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

I have been 9.40's (146mph) on the D.O.T. BFG radials with full exhaust. That was about 7/8 years ago. 428 cu.in.
Info below.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/pontiac.../428specs.html

[goatless]

Originally Posted by PONTIAC DUDE

I have been 9.40's (146mph) on the D.O.T. BFG radials with full exhaust. That was about 7/8 years ago. 428 cu.in.
Info below.

http://www.angelfire.com/fl4/pontiac.../428specs.html

But Ken, those were DRAG radials.

[JohnJudge]

Then there's the guy from Ohio, I can't remember his name, that has a '78 Catalina sleeper that's been in the 10's on a set of Walmart white wall radials.[/QUOTE]

I saw this Catalina at Norwalk a few years back for the first time.. I saw him in the quick 16 shootout, my first impression was that he got in the wrong lane. Man, those whitewalls hooked.....

[quicksilver97ta]

Originally Posted by goatless

But Ken, those were DRAG radials.

I like the poster's question except for the exclusion of the drag radials only because they are so commonly found on street cars these days, it takes more than a double take to notice sometimes. There is a wide variety of "drag" radials. I know the Nitto's I run on the T/A are harder and longer lasting than the MT's I plan to replace them with but the Nitto's are still softer than a normal radial. I've run in the mid to high 12's with my Nitto's but that was also with the front sway bar disconnected. In any case I can't launch this M6 hard with much success either way.

[Steve C.]

Typically it seems the new performance cars mentioned in the lead post all have big wide tires with a soft compound right from the factory. This might not compare to many Pontiac street cars with smaller tires due to the room available in the wheel wells.
I have to agree on the Nitto drag radials not being in the same league as the other DOT drag radials. I use them as a street tire on my Trans Am since they are capable of getting decent milage compared to the others. With a previous 462 street combo I drove to the track and lowered the air pressure on the Nittos and ran 11.02, then put 28 lbs back into them and drove home.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

I wouldn't put the D.O.T. BFG radial in the same class as the M/T, Hoosier or other current super fast Dr's.

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

The fastest that I know of would be in the NMCA (National Muscle Car) "True Street" class.

These cars do a 30 mile cruise and then make three back-to-back quarter mile passes. The only changes allowed between the cruise and the runs are to let air out of the tires (cannot add air, open the hood or add fuel).

Jeff Knox made three passes in the 7.99 range at Memphis this year. He has an early 70s Nova.

The fastest Pontiac in the class would be Mark Scordato's 68 GTO convertible, which won the Milan MI event with a 9.22 average. I believe Hoosiers are his tire of choice.

K

Hoosiers aren't D.O.T. rated.

[Keith Seymore]

Dude! You're too fast!!

(lol)

I deleted my post to make a couple corrections:

a) I think there is a guy named Mike Brown that is running a Trans Am in the 8.90 range, which would make him faster than Mark Scordato. I couldn't find any details, however, after posting.

b) I am probably wrong about the Hoosiers (I was looking at a blurry picture). I thought Hoosiers were DOT approved, but at any rate whatever tire he uses for the cruise portion is the tire that must be used during the quarter mile passes.

Now that I think about it, Jim Filipowski has gone 7.90's on a BFG Drag radial (in street trim).

K

[PONTIAC DUDE]

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Dude! You're too fast!!

(lol)

I deleted my post to make a couple corrections:

a) I think there is a guy named Mike Brown that is running a Trans Am in the 8.90 range, which would make him faster than Mark Scordato. I couldn't find any details, however, after posting.

b) I am probably wrong about the Hoosiers (I was looking at a blurry picture). I thought Hoosiers were DOT approved, but at any rate whatever tire he uses for the cruise portion is the tire that must be used during the quarter mile passes.

K

M/T's were. Hoosiers aren't when they first came out.

I have been 8.93@154 with the BFG and a 455. Didn't drive it much after i replaced the 428 with a 455, and still a pump gas 10.5-1 compression engine, but was tagged. Still 3600lbs and stock suspension. 295 BFG
Bottom of the page 2003 Orlando. #19 on the chart. There were 85 playa's that year. Damn that was a long time ago. LOL.
http://www.speedworlddragway.com/Str...Results03.html

[kidd]

My street tires are drag radials, I don't have another set of tires. I race the car as I run it on the street, and I drive it to the track which is around a 1 1/2 hour drive (each way). The car has no issue driving at freeway speed (75- 85 Mph). The car weighs 3880 with me in it, and has power steering and brakes (with an electric pump). I run the full exhuast, sway bar (1 1/4), rally II's, stiff gas adjust shocks, and 93 octane pump gas.

My best run in full street trim (drag radials) is 11.18 @ 122

Combo:
70 Firebird
478" Pontiac
87CC E heads, CNC ported
Owner port matched Holley street dominator w/ 1" tapered spacer from Jomar
Solid roller cam 250/ 250 @ 0.050"
Holley 950 HP
2" Hooker super comps
Full 3" exhaust (out stock looking tips)
200 4R trans
3.42 gear
3200 stall convertor

[Probird]

Originally Posted by JohnJudge

Then there's the guy from Ohio, I can't remember his name, that has a '78 Catalina sleeper that's been in the 10's on a set of Walmart white wall radials.

I saw this Catalina at Norwalk a few years back for the first time.. I saw him in the quick 16 shootout, my first impression was that he got in the wrong lane. Man, those whitewalls hooked.....

That's Ernie Keppler that you are talking about. He's actually from here in central Illinois. I'm not sure if he made it into the 10's on those whitewalls. I think he was right at 11.0's. On slicks it will run well into the 10's though. That really is an impressive car with d-ports and an iron intake, that can drive anywhere, and looks like grandma's car.

[goatless]

Originally Posted by Probird

That's Ernie Keppler that you are talking about. He's actually from here in central Illinois.

Dolp! Yeah that's the guy! I should have known he was from Illinois, as Hooter introduced me to him. I talked to him for a while at VMP a couple of years ago- real nice guy too.

[68birdfreak]

Fastest i have gone in street trim is 12.45 at 114 mph
combo is 428 with factory crank and factory RAII heads
Gregg Merrick built HOG!
holley 800dp and a tko600rr w/ 3.55 gears
Goodyear eagles spinning in first 3 gears....
Drive it to the track...

[Cliff R]

The last run I made with my car this year was 11.64 @ 120mph. The 3 previous runs were 11.41, 11.40, and 11.39, all at 120mph with 1.61 60' times. We had the M/T Drag Radials in place, but there was ZERO traction available on the starting line. I annialated them all the way through first gear and part way into second gear. This resulted in a 1.85 60'. I figured the run would have been in the mid to high 12's. I couldn't believe it when I got the time slip!.....Cliff

[gearbanger]

Originally Posted by goatless

Yes, but he's talking about RACING his street car.

Gearbanger, are you looking for times from street cars or any car running a non-drag tire? There's 'Vette running in F.A.S.T. that gone 10.30 @130 on repro Firestone Wide-Ovals.

Then there's the guy from Ohio, I can't remember his name, that has a '78 Catalina sleeper that's been in the 10's on a set of Walmart white wall radials.

Goatless,

Yes I was talking about cars with non drag tires on them just because is you talk about drag radial cars, you are opening it up to the drag radial classes that run 8s like P-dude or some of these Mustangs.

I love the F.A.S.T racing, I have been keeping up with it and I am amazed with the 60 ft times they cam pull! The corvette you are talking about can get a 1.6x 60 ft and there are a couple of mopars in there that can do 1.50 60' times on little 70 series Firestones!

My goal is to run high elevens in full street gear. It is great to hear about the other combos that run in street trim. It is pretty fun to drive it to the strip and pull straight onto the track and knock of a 12 or even 11 second pass.

[gearbanger]

Cliff, that is a good illustration of something that I have always heard but really don't understand. You lost about 2.5 tenths off your 60 ft time but ran exactly the same mph in the quarter. I have always heard that traction didn;t really affect the mph but darned if I understand why?

It seems like if you accelerate less then your mph would be less over the same distance. Guess not though?

[David Holmberg]

Your ET is calculated as soon as you break the beams till you trip them again at the end of the 1/4.

The MPH is calculated by a pair of timing lights at the 1/8th mile and the 1/4 mile. Your MPH is determined by how accelerate thru those two sections not the entire 1/4 mile.