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every 455 ho formula i have ever owned ( 71 and 72) had the sticker on the lid. most were bought from the original owners.

A 72 Formula HO M22. I will scan the PHS and post.........

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The PHS on it
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Hey D,

Made it home all in one piece and in near record time too!
Thanks for letting me enjoying driving your new silver bird all week. It was great and well never be forgotten i
Hope that wrenching on her today went well ?
My next trip I'm going to be packing a car for sure.
Later,
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The PHS on it
That is pretty close to my definition of a perfectly optioned Formula, wow......

HO, 4 spd, no air, TA suspension, gauges, PS, PB, tilt Formula wheel, geez......

It came hub caps? I couldn't resist honeycombs.

And the great choice of not ordering a spoiler, has it all

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nice, i love the ho formulas. is it the silver car pictured on the previous page?

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That is pretty close to my definition of a perfectly optioned Formula, wow......

HO, 4 spd, no air, TA suspension, gauges, PS, PB, tilt Formula wheel, geez......

It came hub caps? I couldn't resist honeycombs.

And the great choice of not ordering a spoiler, has it all
I agree Bird72. pretty close to perfect. Some minor notes on this car however:
No 361/G80 as ordered????? It has a 12 bolt G80 in it now, no problem for me there.
Spoiler was added. I would of spec'd it that way if I had ordered it anyway. (sorry)
Rally II's with the chrome trim rings added, N98 and 471/P06 respectively.
Looks like it would of come with the standard wheels with dog dishes or whatever Pontiac called them.
Revere Silver Code 14 with black interior code 261 and 724/Y90 Custom trim group

I have not looked for a build sheet yet, but doubt I would find one anyway.

08' Nats pictures attached for your viewing pleasure.

Oh, got one more car on it's way, should be here by end of month, but that will get a post on one of our "other" thread/Forum sections.................

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Rain Rain Go away......

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that is nice. congrats. what is the other car on the way?

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SDD my brother in law and I thank you for letting us view the new acquisition
Very nice time hanging out with you,Sean and Brian,you guys crack me up.
As you could tell I was floored by the sound of American muscle that fille dthe air that night,good time,..........good people and BAD ASS CARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rally II's with the chrome trim rings added, N98 and 471/P06 respectively.
Looks like it would of come with the standard wheels with dog dishes or whatever Pontiac called them.
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I think it has been highlighted in another post that Formulas equipped with the Y99 Handling Package came with 15" RallyIIs as part of the package. There are no specs or part numbers in the MPC or the assemby manual for a 15" plain steel wheel for Firebirds in '70-'73

And it is a pretty cool combo...not many HO 4-speed Formulas with Y99!

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Looking forward in my return next month and checking out the new (next) car. I'll understand if you dont let me drive that one all week during my visit. ;-)
Still waiting for that first ride up north !
Possible snow tomorrow, Ahhhhhhhhhhhh, will I ever be able to get my car out ?????

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I think it has been highlighted in another post that Formulas equipped with the Y99 Handling Package came with 15" RallyIIs as part of the package. There are no specs or part numbers in the MPC or the assemby manual for a 15" plain steel wheel for Firebirds in '70-'73

And it is a pretty cool combo...not many HO 4-speed Formulas with Y99!
In 1971, the Y96 Handling package included 15" Honeycomb wheels on the Formula, and cost $205.37

In 1972. the Formula Y99 Handling package cost $87.00 and included 15" plain steel wheels with "dog dish" caps and trim rings. Honeycomb wheels were available for an extra $123.00, Rally II wheels were available for $87.00

Only 851 1972 Formulas were ordered with the Y99 Handling package.

In 1973, the Formula Y99 Handling package was priced by the tire selection chosen:
F60-15 with space saver spare cost $72.60
F60-15 without space saver cost $87.00
GR70-15 with space saver spare cost $158.60
GR70-15 without space saver cost $167.00
It came with plain steel 15" wheels and "baby moon" hubcaps unless Honeycombs or Rally II wheels were ordered.

In 1974, the price of the Formula handling package was included in the tires. If you ordered 15" tires, you got the handling package. Handling package price does not appear on the invoice of a 1974 Formula, but if it has 15" tires on the invoice, it has the handling package.

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In 1971, the Y96 Handling package included 15" Honeycomb wheels on the Formula, and cost $205.37

In 1972. the Formula Y99 Handling package cost $87.00(sales code 332 UPC Code Y99) and included 15" plain steel wheels with "dog dish" caps and trim rings.
I did not know the 72's had trim rings with the "dog dish". My info says Wheel Covers, Custom Finned 472/PO2 for $50.00 and Wheel Covers, Deluxe 476/PO1 for $31.00

Honeycomb wheels were available for an extra $123.00,(SC 478 UPC PO5) Rally II wheels were available for $87.00(SC 474 UPC N98)

Only 851 1972 Formulas were ordered with the Y99 Handling package. I see 5,250 total built Formulas, but no breakdown per engine?

In 1973, the Formula Y99 Handling package was priced by the tire selection chosen:
F60-15 with space saver spare cost $72.60
F60-15 without space saver cost $87.00
GR70-15 with space saver spare cost $158.60
GR70-15 without space saver cost $167.00
It came with plain steel 15" wheels and "baby moon" hubcaps unless Honeycombs or Rally II wheels were ordered.

In 1974, the price of the Formula handling package was included in the tires. If you ordered 15" tires, you got the handling package. Handling package price does not appear on the invoice of a 1974 Formula, but if it has 15" tires on the invoice, it has the handling package.
I added my additions in RED and comments in BLUE, hope that's OK,

Well I guess I did decode this car pretty good.
Thanks for the clarification toomanybirds, great info you posted, thanks.

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Oh, got one more car on it's way, should be here by end of month, but that will get a post on one of our "other" thread/Forum sections.................

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Don't be so harsh brother, the deal is not finalized 100% yet, but 99.5% sure it's done.
I Kind of like teasing some of you people too.........

Sorry, I'm bad.

Have a great week everyone!

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I added my additions in RED and comments in BLUE, hope that's OK,

Well I guess I did decode this car pretty good.
Thanks for the clarification toomanybirds, great info you posted, thanks.

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I like the red and blue, very easy to read and understand

1972 Formula production from the "Firebird Decoding Guide":
Formula 350 = 2,544
Formula 400 = 2,429
Formula 455 (all were HO) = 276
Total Formula production = 5,249
Manual trans Formula = 1,082
Automatic trans Formula = 4,167

The P01 Deluxe, and the P02 Custom Finned wheel covers were 14" and would not fit the 15" wheels that came with the handling package.

I assume they used the dog dish caps with the trim rings to simulate the look of full wheel covers. I also assume very few were built this way, and of those that were, most were replaced with aftermarket wheels when new.

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I like the red and blue, very easy to read and understand

1972 Formula production from the "Firebird Decoding Guide":
Formula 350 = 2,544
Formula 400 = 2,429
Formula 455 (all were HO) = 276 (I think we all agree on that #)
Total Formula production = 5,249 (is their a missing Formula somewhere or ???) My PHS says 5,250 made?
Manual trans Formula = 1,082
Automatic trans Formula = 4,167

The P01 Deluxe, and the P02 Custom Finned wheel covers were 14" and would not fit the 15" wheels that came with the handling package. Interesting, anyone have pictures of either wheel package?

I assume they used the dog dish caps with the trim rings to simulate the look of full wheel covers. I also assume very few were built this way, and of those that were, most were replaced with aftermarket wheels when new.
Wow, this car might look hot with the steel wheel moon cap thing.
Might be a thought for an extra set of tires and wheel combo....

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Thus the search begins!
I agree that the car would look great with the dog dish wheels due to there are plan easy going like the rest of the body trim.
LOL,
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This is a 73, 72 is different, but kinda the idea......




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Total Formula production = 5,249 (is their a missing Formula somewhere or ???) My PHS says 5,250 made?
SDD
I think the PHS number is probably more reliable.

There are a few production number descrepancies, I have seen both 57 and 58 quoted for the 74 Formula SD production, not sure which is correct.

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