[rotdog]

Even worse firewall insulation? Had plenty of both.

[GStage1]

Asbestos is for high/extreme heat exposure...the headliner insulation is compressed paper board material...nothing that can harm you except dust.

[hillpc]

Not only that; who cares? The people who got sick from asbestos were the workers who breathed clouds of it 8 hours a day for 20 years. Incidental exposures like one would get in a situation like this are trivial.

[paint guy]

Originally Posted by hillpc

Not only that; who cares? The people who got sick from asbestos were the workers who breathed clouds of it 8 hours a day for 20 years. Incidental exposures like one would get in a situation like this are trivial.

WHAT????According to NIOSH Publication#97-162(page 25):"ALL levels of exposure studied to date have demonstrated asbestos -related disease".And how about this:"THERE IS NO LEVEL OF ASBESTOS EXPOSURE below which clinical effects do not occur."
In addition,even though the EPA has set a limit of .1 fibers per cc of air as a PEL(pemissible exposure limit),they do NOT claim this level is safe,just an attainable target for regulatory purposes.The federal gov't has numerous regulations in place concerning how to limit exposure of workers FAMILY MEMBERS concerning showering,laundry,etc.Your risk of asbestos-related disease greatly increases if you smoke(much more so than asbestos exposure or smoking by itself.)And,of course,the amount of exposure,and time of exposure,will also increase the risk.On the bright side,the asbestos compound used in automobile insulation was PROBABLY of the serpentine type,and not the amphibole type,which may be less harmful.But it never hurts to PROTECT YOURSELF.

[hillpc]

[QUOTE=paint guy;3768553]WHAT????According to NIOSH Publication#97-162(page 25):"ALL levels of exposure studied to date have demonstrated asbestos -related disease".

Trivial exposures have not been studied, and can't be studied because adequate statistical power to detect differences would make such a study untenable. Epidemiological studies over long time are the only ways to get a clue on this kind of thing; this approach is useful to then start direct studies. The statement "THERE IS NO LEVEL OF ASBESTOS EXPOSURE below which clinical effects do not occur" smacks of the absurdity of "one molecule will kill you", whereas the operative rule in the real world is "the dose makes the poison." Thanks for the NIOSH reference. Is the absurd quote from it as well?

All that said, I agree with your statement that it never hurts to protect yourself.

[paint guy]

Originally Posted by GStage1

Asbestos is for high/extreme heat exposure...the headliner insulation is compressed paper board material...nothing that can harm you except dust.

This is not neccesarily true(I am not saying that it is not true,however.)Asbestos was WIDELY used in alot of materials in the 60's and 70's,including paint,drywall,various types of insulation,and many other materials,not just high-heat applications.

[fbrown]

While on the subject of safety, I should point out, if you still have the original paint, it will contain lead. Take this in consideration before you grind it off with a stripping pad.