[John Langer]

The front x member was completely removed and a piece of moly tube was put back in its place to mount the rack. There is an integrated "crash bar" mounted on this bar that triangulates back to the lower control arm mounting point for reinforcement. The "crash bar" is the lowest point on the front of my car and what hits the gound and absorbs the impact.

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by John Langer

The front x member was completely removed and a piece of moly tube was put back in its place to mount the rack. There is an integrated "crash bar" mounted on this bar that triangulates back to the lower control arm mounting point for reinforcement. The "crash bar" is the lowest point on the front of my car and what hits the gound and absorbs the impact.

I figured as much.

You install a very strong chrome moly tube cross-member/ "Crash Bar" (which you said yourself takes all of the impact) that you also use to mount the rack for the steering.

Sounds to me that Jack would need to do EXACTLY the same deal for your example to hold water. Otherwise it is apples to oranges.

If you are not going to change to a Rack/ "Crash Bar" , Jack, install the the removable piece on the existing frame with the mid mount, the front mount, and the "J-bars".

Tom Vaught

[Brian Baker]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

I figured as much.

You install a very strong chrome moly tube cross-member/ "Crash Bar" (which you said yourself takes all of the impact) that you also use to mount the rack for the steering.

Sounds to me that Jack would need to do EXACTLY the same deal for your example to hold water. Otherwise it is apples to oranges.

If you are not going to change to a Rack/ "Crash Bar" , Jack, install the the removable piece on the existing frame with the mid mount, the front mount, and the "J-bars".

Tom Vaught

So then, John's block does not act as a stressed member of the chassis with the addition of this "crash bar".

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Brian Baker

So then, John's block does not act as a stressed member of the chassis with the addition of this "crash bar".

That is my point, it does act like a stressed member to keep the frame rails in position.
Any rack mount that is also acting like a "crash bar" will keep the frame rails in position when used with a front and mid plate. Does Diaper Boy have a rack or crash bar presently in his car or just conventional steering box?

You need to look at the whole picture vs one part.

I would say that if Jack has or puts a rack/ crashbar into his frame system he will be ok, without the rack/ crash bar I would install the removable support like Dave P did, expecially with normal steering.

Tom Vaught