[Cliff R]

"I was thinking about asking Lanier Henry who is a part owner/partner (or damn good friends etc) with Schneider Racing Cams. They are grinding me a cam now FWIW..."

It's my understanding that CMC ground the original WG-5059 cams. They also have the original prints. In order to have a run made, a few samples would need to be obtained, and measured, then put in an engine and ran on the dyno, etc.

Once satisfied with the product, an order would be placed for a minimum run or price per camshaft based on the amount they designate per order. I have no idea what their minimum order would be, as I never got a return phone call from anyone at that company, and I left numerous messages at several folks desks? Typically, the more you purchase, the less they cost per camshaft.

I also gave up on the idea due to the high lobe failure rates we are seeing with flat camshafts these days. It was probably a good thing that CMC didn't make it easy for us, because no doubt 20-30 percent of the cams we would have sold would have had a lobe or two knocked off of them (for various reasons beyond our control). This gets us in to having to warranty them, etc.

We went to roller cams here for all engines built here (when we choose the parts). We also went to forged cranks and forged 4340 connecting rods as well. End result, Cliff sleeps better at night!......Cliff

[Rocky Rotella]

A couple of pictures of an original 744-profile camshaft. You can clearly see the "constant dwell" at peak lobe lift that's often referred to.

[tom s]

I have your dist gear sitting on my desk for a couple weeks now!Do you need to own it or use it.$100 if you want to own it.Tom

[tom s]

sorry yt hi jack!meant to PM.Tom

[Tom Vaught]

Originally Posted by Cliff R

" It's my understanding that CMC ground the original WG-5059 cams. They also have the original prints. In order to have a run made, a few samples would need to be obtained, and measured, then put in an engine and ran on the dyno, etc.

Once satisfied with the product, an order would be placed for a minimum run or price per camshaft based on the amount they designate per order. I have no idea what their minimum order would be, as I never got a return phone call from anyone at that company, and I left numerous messages at several folks desks? Typically, the more you purchase, the less they cost per camshaft. Cliff

A bit more history:

The guy who "Wrote the Book" on Camshaft design, Don Hubbard, was a "Boost Guy" and very good friend of mine during my early years at Ford. His book is here: http://cambook.net/

Don had a turbocharged Jaguar 6 cylinder. He worked on the Chevrolet Can Am Turbo
cars during that race series.

Don had worked for Harvey Crane and later was the Vice President for Camshaft Machine Company (OEM Cams) and Wolverine Blue Racer Cams (Aftermarket). I was a dealer for the Wolverine Blue Racer camshafts and still have some of the camshafts on the shelves.

I would typically buy the camshafts 10 at a time and the camshaft kits (w lifters and lube) 5 at a time. I was not required to buy 50 cams at a time. I would order about 6 times a year. Unfortunately Wolverine Blue Racer went out of business. They (CMC/ WBR) made great camshafts.

The Chief Engineer of the CMC / Wolverine company was a "Pontiac Guy" named Glenn Corwin.

I watched a Pontiac hydraulic camshafts being ground on one of their high speed grinders in less than a minute. They also ground all of the early Roller camshafts for the Ford Motor Company.

Yep, CMC ground the WG-5059 camshafts. They also had an extensive cam profile collection (using their measurement equipment). I had a couple of new camshafts from "the other guys" that CMC read for me. One of these camshafts was the famous Milt Schornack "744" cheater camshaft, that in no way, resembled a factory 744 camshaft, lol!
It was a true CHEATER camshaft.

Tom Vaught