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Couple noteworthy things that have been discussions over the years.
The car does not have any chrome exhaust tip extensions. Has been questioned whether or not all 4spd cars received them or it was an option. This one definitely did not have them. I also find it interesting that the hood decals are "RAM AIR" as opposed to "RAM AIR IV". Possible that being an early Baltimore IV car, they did not yet have the correct decals or the assembly line worker grabbed the wrong decal?
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Doug, I'm so glad that you have this car and this one can never leave Batesville again. I have talked about this car over the years and I'm glad to know who has it today.
One thing this might have done is to get the old owner back into cars. I think he asked Doug if he wanted to sell it 2 or maybe 3 times before Doug had to go. His brother had always said if that car could talk and yesterday I found out that they were talking about the back seat talking. The girls must have really loved that car. |
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Also noteworthy that it has the blacked out grills - originally only thought to be found on Judges.
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Good point. Assembly manual actually calls that one out per engine option (ram air or not) for 69. Haven't checked 70 per the assembly manual, but thinking that was Judge option specific as opposed to engine option specific.
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I like how good the door gaps and hood gaps looks.
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#26
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exhaust tips were a option. what door gaps? what hood?
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Agree, just more evidence to questions people have asked over the years. I think Chris is referring to the pictures from 69 with regard to panel fitment.
![]() Has pretty large gaps in it's current state as the parts are spread over a football field and all over my garage.
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Don't confuse the prodding, Greg is green with envy - Limelight green in fact!
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Some guys they just give up living And start dying little by little, piece by piece, Some guys come home from work and wash up, And go racin' in the street. Bruce Springsteen - Racing In The Street - 1978 |
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Doug also forgot to mention that the older brother of Gary’s had bought a new red 69 ram air 3 4sp car that he painted bright green after only having the car a month or 2. He said that drinking may have been involved. Bill had bought his gto after he totaled his 67 Chevelle (396 – 4 sp) so Their Dad had a 69 Judge, Bill a 69 ra 3 4sp car and Gary had a 69 ra iv conv, and the other brother had a 69 camaro.
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2many.....
Batesville Tool & Die, Batesville Casket, and Hill Rom are all customers of mine. And I go out there a couple times a year. I might just have to invite myself to see some of this Limelight stuff.. Sid |
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didn't the ra4 cars have ra4 on the hood and not just ra?
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1970 GTO Convertible 455 Ram Air M-21, Atoll/Blue/Black, Hood Tach, 3:31 12-Bolt Posi, A/C, Console 1966 Grand Prix 421 Tripower 4spd, Marina Turquoise/Turquoise, a/c, console, posi, reverb. pa, pb, ps, remote mirror, mats 2010 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic, 6spd Hemi, Detonator Yellow, black stripe, black leather |
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Yes, that is why I noted the question above as this possibly being an assembly line error? Now I have to decide to restore the car as it is intended to be or how the it was actually built based on the 3 month old pictures.
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To avoid the questions and explanations - without the documentation - I'd just put the ra4 stickers on ... just my opinion.
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1970 GTO Convertible 455 Ram Air M-21, Atoll/Blue/Black, Hood Tach, 3:31 12-Bolt Posi, A/C, Console 1966 Grand Prix 421 Tripower 4spd, Marina Turquoise/Turquoise, a/c, console, posi, reverb. pa, pb, ps, remote mirror, mats 2010 Dodge Challenger R/T Classic, 6spd Hemi, Detonator Yellow, black stripe, black leather |
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This is a rare opportunity to document and preserve one element of the true history of the vehicle. Since the original owner is around, have him produce an affidavit as to the authenticity of the picture and the as-delivered state of the vehicle. Then put the "Ram Air" decals back on it. One of the purposes of "restoration" is to preserve this history.
Caveat: Be sure the car was not wrecked early on, or that the dealer didn't have to repaint the hood for some reason, even before delivery to the original owner. My $.02
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Hey Doug -
Great car! Have you made any progress yet? BTW - that was Hurricane Camille that hit Mississippi. My grandparents' house was about 200 yards from the beach. It survived Camille, but Katrina completely washed it away. Scott
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Hey Doug -
Great car! Have you made any progress yet? BTW - that was Hurricane Camille that hit Mississippi. Gust of 212 mph was recorded. My grandparents' house was about 200 yards from the beach. It survived Camille, but Katrina completely washed it away. Scott
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Both my IV judges 69 did not have RAIV, only Ram Air decals. I have pictures of the one that was raced back in 1969 just like the one in yours. The second Judge still wears its original hood with original paint, ram air on it.
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Doug has been busy assembling parts... it's ironic that most of the panels he has assembled for the car are Limelight Green!
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