[JLHarper]

We were just talking about this service, and who regulates it.

A partners friend owns a large trucking co and uses these services where he has to.

Example: hauled some lquid asphalt to CA and some crushed pepper (for hot sauce) back East for mfg.

I recall they paid $800 to have the tank cleaned.

Building up contacts might be hard at first.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by JLHarper

Example: hauled some lquid asphalt to CA and some crushed pepper (for hot sauce) back East for mfg.

I didn't know they were allowed to carry food and non-food items in the same vehicle. You'd really have to clean out the tank well in between loads.

[JLHarper]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I didn't know they were allowed to carry food and non-food items in the same vehicle. You'd really have to clean out the tank well in between loads.

Thats what I thought too, but what he was told.

I guess if they certify them, they are good to go(?)

[Keith Seymore]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I didn't know they were allowed to carry food and non-food items in the same vehicle. You'd really have to clean out the tank well in between loads.

Funny you should mention that; off topic, but reminds me of a story my Dad liked to tell:

Originally Posted by Keith Seymore

Back in the mid/late 70's he was working at Chevrolet Flint Manufacturing. In addition to the sheet metal components that they made they were also the supplier for a fiberglass (maybe "composite" would be a better word) front header panel for passenger cars. This would be the piece in front of the hood that supports the headlamps, grille, and closes out the front of the fenders.

At seemingly random intervals they would get complaints back from the assembly plants of bubbles, pits and lack of paint adhesion. Usually, as quickly as the problem surfaced, it would go away again on its own without them having a chance to diagnose what the root cause was.

On one occasion the were able to secure a part that manifested the problem and get it shipped to their chemistry lab for analysis. When the report came back there were high levels of "sucrose" in the part.

Dad called the lab technician on the phone. "Sucrose?" he said. "You mean, like - sugar?".

"Yes" the tech replied. "For the purposes of this discussion, they are essentially the same thing."

Dad put that information in the back corners of his mind and they continued to investigate.



After a long period of study, they did finally figure out what the issue was.

They were able to track the occurrence of the incidents back to one specific independent trucker. Apparently what was happening was this: The trucker was from the Atlanta area, which is where the resin for this composite part was manufactured. He would take a truckload of the resin up to Flint and drop it off (as per the plan). Then - rather than running home empty - he would head up to Saginaw, where he would take on a full load of Pioneer sugar and make a run home with that, dropping the sugar at the Coca-Cola bottling facility in Atlanta. He had quite a system going since he could make money on the return trip instead of deadheading home. That's where the sugar in the part was coming from - the contaminated resin.

I have no idea what made them think to cross reference the incidents with the individual shipments but once they confronted this particular trucker (and told him to stop) the problem went away for good.

[Simple Man]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I didn't know they were allowed to carry food and non-food items in the same vehicle. You'd really have to clean out the tank well in between loads.

I don't believe you can haul foodgrade in anything but another food grade tank. Would YOu want to eat something that was hauled in a tank that hauled old motor oil, or similar? You would hope the tank was washed properly. Even then I think there would be traces of the original product.

[stimpy]

Originally Posted by Stuart

I didn't know they were allowed to carry food and non-food items in the same vehicle. You'd really have to clean out the tank well in between loads.

your not its illegal to haul food grade items cannot be carried in the same trailer as any chemicals ( ever since the orange juice incident back in the 90's ) , also a asphalt trailer is a specialized trailer , as its uses a carbon steel bore and is not food coded as it don't see any pressure and see's extreme tempatures ( 350-600 degrees ) if you where to put it into a Dot 400 series trailer ( stainless bore which is needed for any food grade material ) it would collapse from the heat, the barrel is the frame of the trailer, milk trailers are the only frame trailer other than aluminum barrels built .been hauling tanks for 25 years .

if you want to see a tankerman laugh and a washrack guy cry , have them do a coke wash on a trailer then close the lids and valves afterwords and set it in the lot , in about 20 minurtes you will hear a large beercan crushing sound , thats the trailer sucking itself in , and ussually when thy do this the only thinfg we can reuse is the lid , valves and tires . and the back wheel set is ussually a couple of feet off the ground as its sits on its belly . ( I had this happen to 2 brand new trailers back in 1995 and we were p.o.'d as they never seen a load as they just came from there VIK tests )

[stimpy]

OBTW , I talked to my freinds at the wash , the facility cost 2.5 mil to set up , and the epa regs take a while to file and ok