G8 6spd swap?

[Mr_GTO]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

how's it more trouble?

I have seen quite a few guys with BMW 740i change over, and its not a problem for them.

I think a swap would be pretty much straight forward.

only problem I see is the crossmember maybe.

Well then go for it. You'll need the pedals, tranny, console, ECM/BCM and a good tuner to defeat/disable the Displacement on Demand that the 6.0 has but the 6.2L doesn't. Should only cost you about $5-7K.

[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by Mr_GTO

Well then go for it. You'll need the pedals, tranny, console, ECM/BCM and a good tuner to defeat/disable the Displacement on Demand that the 6.0 has but the 6.2L doesn't. Should only cost you about $5-7K.

Not sure if I am reading into your post too much, but I detect some attitude. Not sure why...

like I said in my original post,

I am curious if anyone has seen anything yet on swapping in the 6spd into a regular GT

Anyways.
consoles seem to be the same from all the pictures I have seen, not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC

[Mr_GTO]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

Not sure if I am reading into your post too much, but I detect some attitude. Not sure why...

like I said in my original post,

Anyways.
consoles seem to be the same from all the pictures I have seen, not sure how the active fuel management would affect anything as the 04 GTO with the manual had it IIRC

Because it's more money and trouble than it's worth.

Consoles are NOT the same.


Don't confuse AFM with Skip Shift. NOT THE SAME. You really need to educate yourself on the cars and understand what it would take to do the job. Not saying it can't be done but after all the time effort and money you'd be better off just buying a GXP.

[455_PWR]

"Because it's more money and trouble than it's worth."

agreed... you would need the trans, pcm, bcm, tune, possible wiring, cutting/welding/instillation, interior pieces, etc. Speaking from experience on other vehicles, this is more trouble then it's worth.

I am happy the the auto/auto shift myself. If you have tons of cash to burn, it would be a good idea. If you are going to do the mod (especially on a 6 cyl...) go buy a gxp since it would cost around the same.

There are also not alot of gxp's being parted out so I would assume you would have to buy these parts brand new. I can only assume the bcm/pcm would cost a ton by themselves. I would honestly estimate the instillation cost (if done by yourself) at least near 10k if not more. Check out the inflated prices on new car parts in this economy and be realistic. New tranny would cost near 5k alone, thenpcm/bcm/console, tune, etc.

I have seen several m6's for sale recently including a psm (rarest color) on autotrader.com. They go very fast (in a day or two) but they have been selling for around 30-33k. Remember these are used cars now and even though they are rare they are still depreciating. Some people think these cars are worth a ton and try to sell them for 40k+, and they sit on the cars forever because no one is spending this lol. I almost bought a 09 gxp sbm for 40k with 2k miles 4 months ago in ohio but i bought a gt instead. i also saw a 09 gxp with 700 miles sell for 33k 3 weeks ago on autotrader. I assume these cars will be in the 20-25k range in a year or two, just look at grand prix gxp's or solstice gxps. Also remember that most of the auto gxp's are rarer than the manuals as they produced more m6's than autos.

Above all, however, if you want to do the mod, go for it. I say "to each his own", but i figured I's put in my 2 cents... Sorry for the long post.

[Captainofiron]

Originally Posted by OVERULD

Local guy here in Atlanta did an A6 to M6 conversion on a GT plus a bunch of other mods. Pretty good threads on it over at the G8 board. Like others have posted, by the time he got it all done and tuned, he was way over GXP M6 $. I didn't really see the point. But he has a unique ride as a result.

BJ

are you talking about Dave GA? He is the first to do it I believe, however I dont think his conversion is a good representation because he has a really hot motor and he went all out on the parts, you could get stock LS stuff for way cheaper than what he did, not to mention not all the one off stuff he got from manufacturers.

Originally Posted by 455_PWR

"Because it's more money and trouble than it's worth."

agreed... you would need the trans, pcm, bcm, tune, possible wiring, cutting/welding/instillation, interior pieces, etc. Speaking from experience on other vehicles, this is more trouble then it's worth.
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There are also not alot of gxp's being parted out so I would assume you would have to buy these parts brand new. I can only assume the bcm/pcm would cost a ton by themselves. I would honestly estimate the instillation cost (if done by yourself) at least near 10k if not more. Check out the inflated prices on new car parts in this economy and be realistic. New tranny would cost near 5k alone, thenpcm/bcm/console, tune, etc.
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Above all, however, if you want to do the mod, go for it. I say "to each his own", but i figured I's put in my 2 cents... Sorry for the long post.

yea I doubt many gxp's are being parted out, but as I stated earlier, the holden VE (Australian for g8 haha) came with the T-56 so there are plenty of manual trans parts out there. Also there are more than a few Australian firms I have seen selling VE/G8 parts for this specific reason.

if Dave GA did it for around 8K with all the race/high end custom parts Im sure that you could do it cheaper. One of the Australian companies has a complete kit for 5K Australian dollars, from the pedals to the drive shaft.

[OVERULD]

Originally Posted by Captainofiron

are you talking about Dave GA? He is the first to do it I believe, however I dont think his conversion is a good representation because he has a really hot motor and he went all out on the parts, you could get stock LS stuff for way cheaper than what he did, not to mention not all the one off stuff he got from manufacturers.

if Dave GA did it for around 8K with all the race/high end custom parts Im sure that you could do it cheaper. One of the Australian companies has a complete kit for 5K Australian dollars, from the pedals to the drive shaft.

Yep - same guy. You're right, he really built that motor and I think he initially had some issues with the clutch and rear handling all that power and getting it to the wheels. I haven't spoken with him in a while now - last time I saw him was at a local meet and he was still collecting parts at that time - then later saw some discussion on it over at the G8 board.

Didn't know about the Austrailian company offering a complete kit. That's tempting for either an A6 GT or an A6 GXP. Shoot me a PM with a link if you don't mind.

BJ