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I like PY, so much so that when I was buying parts for my Lemans, I purchased them from PY. I love this forum. Lots of great info and people on here. I am putting together an order to go out at the first of the year for my Catalina.
very loyal of you to say that despite our lack of print catalog. Thanks! So this is what I take from that post. Our sales are not that great on the big cars, so we are just not going to do anything to improve these sales. We will have a catalog that we will send out every 10 years or more and hope that helps our sales in this area. We will also tell our customers that they are cheapskates and hope that pushes them to buy more parts. The comment was not directed at any individual. Collectively as a group, unfortunately this is the brutal truth. I appologize if you took it personally. It is nice/odd to see that there are people on this board that are working on developing parts and not the people selling them though. Was looking at http://pontiacparadise.com/shoptalk/...re-on-the-way/ and the battery trays are almost done and maybe that is the way it works. someone else develops the product and then PY, Ames and other sell them. I would have to think that there is a demand there. You can buy trunk pans, battery trays, frame mounts, gas tanks, exhaust down pipes, from other places that are also working on a quality qtr patch and floor extensions and many other items. There must be some demand. These are the types of items that are needed to jump start the Big Pontiac hobby that nobody steps up and makes. There's a lot of talk but very little action. When there is action, a lot of times, the business model fails. Take for instance the Battery tray. Kudos for having the balls to make that tray. But how many owners are going to spend $79 on a battery tray that the rest of the hobby sells for $20. These types of projects don't normally succeed because the developer has no marketing avenues and doesn't build in a profit margin for dealers. Repop a 65 rear tail panel and sell them for $1000 and I am sure by the end of the first year, you will have sold at least 20-30 of them. Granted, I have no clue what it takes to get these done or how much it would cost to do and maybe that is not enough for it to be worth it? I agree that 'maybe' 30 owners would commit to paying $1000 for a nice tailpanel for this car. However, That still leaves a financial loss of somewhere in the neighborhood of $35,000 plus a years worth of investment, testing and approvals. And I can guarantee you that 70 owners would not pay $1000 for that piece in a 1 year period. Maybe ever. The way to confirm some of the interest level on some of these items is to start a 'group buy' topic on any one of these items. Make it clear that 1/2 the money would be collected up front via something like Paypal or CC. (reason is, everyone will say they want a part reproduced, but without committment, you don't have real numbers) Then monitor the results. If you guys get a hot one then we will absolutely pony up for the other 1/2 and do the work to bring it to market. The market for parts and cars are down all over the place. I would think that you have gone as far as you are going to go with the GTO and the Firebird for the most part and that will not likely improve until the remainder of the hobby improves. Why not look at an area that has a lot of growth opportunity? There are more posts and views in the 62-66 big Pontiac forum than the first gen firebird, almost as many as the early GTO. We said the same thing also for the past 10 years. See above comments on jump starting the big cars Ok now I am done. I do appreciate everything that you do for Pontiacs (big ones included) and as stated I am trying to put together an order soon for things that I need for the car. Just get frustrated when I can't find what I need and than see the neglect towards the Darksiders. Your passion for the B-bodies is clear and exemplary. If we could clone you many times over, the hobby would be flourishing!
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