[limejudge69]

Regarding Tony Stewart's remarks: It sure is funny how his opinion has changed since he became car owner and has to pay to repair the damaged cars. Unlike his Gibbs racing days, when Joe paid the bills.
Regarding Kyle Busch and Hornaday: When Kyle wrecked him, Ron Hornaday was racing for a Championship! Totally different situation than some BS retaliation by a couple of back of the packers!
On Danica and Sam:The NASCAR Officials were probably surprised that both Hornish Jr and Danica were still running and going to finish the race, which is rare for the both of them, that they let it go.

[GpFreak]

Have to laugh at all these open wheel drivers coming to NASCAR thinking they can make some big noise. Juan takes out a jet-drier trying to race hisself under caution and now Sam goes from the penthouse (winning Indy) to the outhouse when a girl b*tch slaps him into the wall for repayment, maybe there's some open wheel envy going on here, no different than the Andretti's and Unser's in their day tring to get into the "bootlegger" sport.

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

Regarding Tony Stewart's remarks: It sure is funny how his opinion has changed since he became car owner and has to pay to repair the damaged cars. Unlike his Gibbs racing days, when Joe paid the bills.
Regarding Kyle Busch and Hornaday: When Kyle wrecked him, Ron Hornaday was racing for a Championship! Totally different situation than some BS retaliation by a couple of back of the packers!
On Danica and Sam:The NASCAR Officials were probably surprised that both Hornish Jr and Danica were still running and going to finish the race, which is rare for the both of them, that they let it go.

Wrong on 2 accounts, Tony never took out anyone til they messed with him first when he drove for Gibbs or now. I take it you missed when he and Vickers were having an on track disagreement at Sonoma and Tony ended up on top of the tire barrier last season????????

I follow Tony each and every week in NASCAR, and because we live within a 100 miles of Eldora we get to see him race there on dirt when he has enough time in his schedule. The first weekend in April we watched him run with the All Star Sprints in Northern Ohio and he isn't the one that usually starts feuds, but if he feel you screwed him on the track he will definitely retaliate, not a doubt in my mind. Last few laps of the feature he and a younger driver were going at it and the guy did something that didn't sit well with Tony and when they were coming into the pits after the race Tony hit the guys car and ended up rolling over his own car, of which he fully owns, Haas has no stake in that outlaw sprint car whatsoever.

Speaking from personal experience I've wrecked other cars and my own when I was wearing all the hats, owner, driver, crew chief, and ended up working all week to put it back together plus paying out of pocket for parts. Your not weighing out the work and the money involved when someone takes you out, that is all trivial when the adrenalin is flowing and it never enters your mind. Making sure they aren't going to finish any better than you do is what is the prime motivation at that moment. Is it right?, no but it's all your thinking of at that moment. The last thing on my mind was what's this gonna cost and how long am I gonna be working on it.

[limejudge69]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Wrong on 2 accounts, Tony never took out anyone til they messed with him first when he drove for Gibbs or now. I take it you missed when he and Vickers were having an on track disagreement at Sonoma and Tony ended up on top of the tire barrier last season????????

I follow Tony each and every week in NASCAR, and because we live within a 100 miles of Eldora we get to see him race there on dirt when he has enough time in his schedule. The first weekend in April we watched him run with the All Star Sprints in Northern Ohio and he isn't the one that usually starts feuds, but if he feel you screwed him on the track he will definitely retaliate, not a doubt in my mind. Last few laps of the feature he and a younger driver were going at it and the guy did something that didn't sit well with Tony and when they were coming into the pits after the race Tony hit the guys car and ended up rolling over his own car, of which he fully owns, Haas has no stake in that outlaw sprint car whatsoever.

Speaking from personal experience I've wrecked other cars and my own when I was wearing all the hats, owner, driver, crew chief, and ended up working all week to put it back together plus paying out of pocket for parts. Your not weighing out the work and the money involved when someone takes you out, that is all trivial when the adrenalin is flowing and it never enters your mind. Making sure they aren't going to finish any better than you do is what is the prime motivation at that moment. Is it right?, no but it's all your thinking of at that moment. The last thing on my mind was what's this gonna cost and how long am I gonna be working on it.

Easy there, Killer! I agree Tony was never one to instigate trouble and is known as a clean racer. He has matured over the years but he still is quick tempered. But you can't convince me that it never enters his mind before he retaliates, now that he's an owner. When he was younger he had a very quick temper and had his share of run-ins, skirmishes and damaged equipment. His 'incidents' have decreased as he's gotten older.

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

Easy there, Killer! I agree Tony was never one to instigate trouble and is known as a clean racer. He has matured over the years but he still is quick tempered. But you can't convince me that it never enters his mind before he retaliates, now that he's an owner. When he was younger he had a very quick temper and had his share of run-ins, skirmishes and damaged equipment. His 'incidents' have decreased as he's gotten older.

I think I cited plenty of reasons that bear out what I said, it never enters his mind on track as it never did with me when I raced, and just a month ago I saw him wreck his own sprintcar in retaliation for an on track incident. FYI a sprintcar is easily $100,000 investment so nope it never entered his mind. He was blind with rage as any driver that is in retaliatory mode, been there done that myself.

What his beef was about is the carnage that needs to stop at supperspeedways and there needs to be a permanent solution instead of a band aid on the wound that has festered too long, see previous post for more about this problem.

[Bob Rutledge]

Originally Posted by Sirrotica

Wrong on 2 accounts, Tony never took out anyone til they messed with him first when he drove for Gibbs or now. I take it you missed when he and Vickers were having an on track disagreement at Sonoma and Tony ended up on top of the tire barrier last season????????

I follow Tony each and every week in NASCAR, and because we live within a 100 miles of Eldora we get to see him race there on dirt when he has enough time in his schedule. The first weekend in April we watched him run with the All Star Sprints in Northern Ohio and he isn't the one that usually starts feuds, but if he feel you screwed him on the track he will definitely retaliate, not a doubt in my mind. Last few laps of the feature he and a younger driver were going at it and the guy did something that didn't sit well with Tony and when they were coming into the pits after the race Tony hit the guys car and ended up rolling over his own car, of which he fully owns, Haas has no stake in that outlaw sprint car whatsoever.

Speaking from personal experience I've wrecked other cars and my own when I was wearing all the hats, owner, driver, crew chief, and ended up working all week to put it back together plus paying out of pocket for parts. Your not weighing out the work and the money involved when someone takes you out, that is all trivial when the adrenalin is flowing and it never enters your mind. Making sure they aren't going to finish any better than you do is what is the prime motivation at that moment. Is it right?, no but it's all your thinking of at that moment. The last thing on my mind was what's this gonna cost and how long am I gonna be working on it.

BS, Tony is a putz. Like I said before, he is now, and forever will be a putz. He might be able to drive, but he is an idiot, almost as bad as the Bushy boys. I have already shown you where Tony instigates, not just retaliates. Do I need to show you again?

[Sirrotica]

Originally Posted by Bob Rutledge

BS, Tony is a putz. Like I said before, he is now, and forever will be a putz. He might be able to drive, but he is an idiot, almost as bad as the Bushy boys. I have already shown you where Tony instigates, not just retaliates. Do I need to show you again?

If he was as bad as you claim he would have no respect in the garage area, that isn't so. I believe I follow his career closer much than you do and it's just not a fact. Citing one clip isn't going to condemn him, sorry not buying it.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

Regarding Kyle Busch and Hornaday: When Kyle wrecked him, Ron Hornaday was racing for a Championship! Totally different situation than some BS retaliation by a couple of back of the packers!

On Danica and Sam:The NASCAR Officials were probably surprised that both Hornish Jr and Danica were still running and going to finish the race, which is rare for the both of them, that they let it go.

Earth to limejudge69...

Hornish is currently #4 in the points in the Nationwide Series with 265 points, a top 5 and 3 top 10 finishes. Sam's average finish this year is 11.6.

Danica is in 11th place with 187 points - only 7 points ahead of Trevor Bayne who has missed 3 of the 8 races. Danica has only 1 top 10 finish (8th) - and that was only because 2 late race cautions allowed her to (1) get back on the lead lap and (2) pit and take tires with no loss of position. Danica's average finish this year is 20.9...

Danica isn't good enough to carry Sam's jock - and I'm NOT trying to say that Sam is the greatest driver in NASCAR...

[limejudge69]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Earth to limejudge69...

Hornish is currently #4 in the points in the Nationwide Series with 265 points, a top 5 and 3 top 10 finishes. Sam's average finish this year is 11.6.

Danica is in 11th place with 187 points - only 7 points ahead of Trevor Bayne who has missed 3 of the 8 races. Danica has only 1 top 10 finish (8th) - and that was only because 2 late race cautions allowed her to (1) get back on the lead lap and (2) pit and take tires with no loss of position. Danica's average finish this year is 20.9...

Danica isn't good enough to carry Sam's jock - and I'm NOT trying to say that Sam is the greatest driver in NASCAR...

BFD! He's crashed his share of cars, whether it was his fault or not. He's not Danica and he's not a hugely popular driver, so NASCAR doesn't really care what happened. It adds some spice to the 'show' and that's what NASCAR is desperately looking for. Add that to the fact he was perceived by some as picking on 'our girl' and there you have it: No action by NASCAR.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

BFD! He's crashed his share of cars, whether it was his fault or not.

He may have crashed a number of cars in the past, but currently he's one of the leaders in the Nationwide series. I repeat, his average finish is 11.6 in the Nationwide Series, so how can you claim, "The NASCAR Officials were probably surprised that both Hornish Jr and Danica were still running and going to finish the race, which is rare for the both of them, that they let it go"?

He's not Danica and he's not a hugely popular driver, so NASCAR doesn't really care what happened.

Popularity should have no bearing on the situation.

It adds some spice to the 'show' and that's what NASCAR is desperately looking for. Add that to the fact he was perceived by some as picking on 'our girl' and there you have it: No action by NASCAR.

I don't think many people in racing are worried about Danica getting picked on. It's well known that she is getting preferential treatment, and most race fans are opposed to it.

And as Sirrotica so eloquently pointed out, NASCAR is going to counsel the little princess.

[limejudge69]

Originally Posted by The Champ

He may have crashed a number of cars in the past, but currently he's one of the leaders in the Nationwide series. I repeat, his average finish is 11.6 in the Nationwide Series, so how can you claim, "The NASCAR Officials were probably surprised that both Hornish Jr and Danica were still running and going to finish the race, which is rare for the both of them, that they let it go"?

If Sam is so great why isn't he still in open wheel cars?

Popularity should have no bearing on the situation.

Um, yeah this is NASCAR where popularity matters most.

I don't think many people in racing are worried about Danica getting picked on. It's well known that she is getting preferential treatment, and most race fans are opposed to it.
Which is exactly what I said
And as Sirrotica so eloquently pointed out, NASCAR is going to counsel the little princess.

Good grief man. It's just racing. I turn the tv off and go back to my life when it's over.

[The Champ]

Originally Posted by limejudge69

Good grief man. It's just racing. I turn the tv off and go back to my life when it's over.

Yet here you are, 3 days after the race, still trying to make excuses for Danica.

Do you dream about her at night?

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by The Champ

Do you dream about her at night?

I do during the daytime - don't you?