[Diego]

Originally Posted by 68bird400HO

I would not compare the Judge package to the GSX package. This big reason is that I do agree with others here that the Judge was more of an appearance package. Yes, you got the RAIII motor, but, that was it regarding anything performance related. The GSX was a complete performance package that came with gauges, hood tach, posi, heavy duty suspension, 15x7 rallys with G60x15s and a choice of 4-speed or TH400 as well as the special appearance package.

If there was not Judge, there likely wouldn't be a GSX. I think the actual standard content is irrelevant - I think both cars rely on image more than anything else.

The GSX was complete as were cars like the Hurst/Olds, TAs, W30s, Challeger TAs, AAR Cudas, Boss Mustangs, Cougar Eliminators, and I am sure others.

I am unsure how Boss 302s, and Cougar Eliminators could be considered complete since they all didn't come with limited slip standard. Even Hemis had Sure-grip optional.

[muscle_collector]

Originally Posted by Diego

If there was not Judge, there likely wouldn't be a GSX. I think the actual standard content is irrelevant - I think both cars rely on image more than anything else.





I am unsure how Boss 302s, and Cougar Eliminators could be considered complete since they all didn't come with limited slip standard. Even Hemis had Sure-grip optional.

judges didnt come standard with posi, limited slip either

[68bird400HO]

[QUOTE=Diego;4804267]If there was not Judge, there likely wouldn't be a GSX. I think the actual standard content is irrelevant - I think both cars rely on image more than anything else.[Quote]

And I can agree that a Judge is definitely an iconic car. I am just being objective about the fact that it is more or less an appearance package option for a GTO. I think your frustration with the Olds boys had to do with each side arguing two different points. The debate over what was the Judge package, objectively, and was it iconic are two completely different discussions. I can also agree that it may have been the car that ignited the specialty car package craze for those few years unless you want to give any credit to the 68 Hurst Olds.