[BrandX]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

Jack

Robin loses about 2.7mph(171.3) if he adds 160 lbs... thats still more mph than you have gone. And hes taking power out at launch. So... if he gets it hooked he going to gain mph. Likely no??? He should be able to go 7.70's at 174 if he gets hooked...add 160 pounds he should go 7.80's 171 in his higher altitude vs your east coast magic fall air.

BTW if Robin took a field trip to run the east coast in the fall, how much faster does he go?

Call Robin and ask to see the time slip or video Jack... you are the one wants to call him out on it.

Best use of "ricer math" in this whole thread. If cows had wings they wouldn't step in their own sh!t....... When I had my car together I outran a guy who went 7.50s by about 2 cars and got beat by a 7.20 car by around a car length.....so really my junk ran like 7.40s Hahahahaha..........and that was crappy Oklahoma air....probably more like 6.90s up there in the east coat air and short down hill tracks with the ocean breeze for a tailwind like jack and those guys run in all year. Lmfao........ricer math is fun

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by BrandX

When I had my car together I outran a guy who went 7.50s by about 2 cars and got beat by a 7.20 car by around a car length.....so really my junk ran like 7.40s Hahahahaha..........and that was crappy Oklahoma air....probably more like 6.90s up there in the east coat air and short down hill tracks with the ocean breeze for a tailwind like jack and those guys run in all year. Lmfao........ricer math is fun

So what you are saying, Lil jack might run a 8.20 in the crappy Oklahoma air...

Things that make you go hmmm???

Hmmm.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708250-7420

[BrandX]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

So what you are saying, Lil jack might run a 8.20 in the crappy Oklahoma air...

Things that make you go hmmm???

Hmmm.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708250-7420

Hahahaha it was sarcasm. Jacks car might run. 8.50s round here. We don't have unicorn sauce to prep the track with and the air only has around 14% oxygen....not like the 28% the east coast has brought in by the truckload.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by BrandX

Hahahaha it was sarcasm. Jacks car might run. 8.50s round here. We don't have unicorn sauce to prep the track with and the air only has around 14% oxygen....not like the 28% the east coast has brought in by the truckload.

OHNOYOUJUSTDIDNT!!!

LMAO.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[mike leech]

It does not appear that the cv guys realize how often they say "if,could,would and should" when they "do" these threads won't be so embarrassing. You guys are nowhere near gabbys stuff NA so i would leave him out of it.
Heck I did double throw down call out threads trying to get a cv car off the fence...not one guy actually stepped up to my for sure ported 10 years ago e headed turd. NOT 12000 HEADS!

I'LL SELL MY TOP END FOR $6000

WE GONNA SEE A CV IN THE NA HEADS UP DEAL AT NORWALK.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

It does not appear that the cv guys realize how often they say "if,could,would and should" when they "do" these threads won't be so embarrassing. You guys are nowhere near gabbys stuff NA so i would leave him out of it.
Heck I did double throw down call out threads trying to get a cv car off the fence...not one guy actually stepped up to my for sure ported 10 years ago e headed turd. NOT 12000 HEADS!

I'LL SELL MY TOP END FOR $6000

WE GONNA SEE A CV IN THE NA HEADS UP DEAL AT NORWALK.

... ok Mike, i guess the only thing i can offer you, is when we show up with my CV-1/Camaro, you'll be the first person i race, hows that ?? ...

... and i know this is not what i'd call a fair race, but it's all i got Mike, and we're close to $40,000 on this car and its engine, and counting, so have you dropped that kinda' coin on your car this year Mike ?? Maybe so, i dont know, but we are doing the best we can ... what do you want me to do, rob a bank ?? ...

... and considering you and Kinsler have 10yrs in your set up's, i think we're doing pretty good considering, and i've only been around the CV-1 program for about 3 yrs, most of which did not involve the Camaro project, so how bout a little patience huh ??? ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok Mike, i guess the only thing i can offer you, is when we show up with my CV-1/Camaro, you'll be the first person i race, hows that ?? ...

OK I guess if you make it. so i have to give you 90 inches 300 lbs. ok I'll do it. You better PHUKIN kill me or you will look like a fool.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by mike leech

OK I guess if you make it. so i have to give you 90 inches 300 lbs. ok I'll do it. You better PHUKIN kill me or you will look like a fool.

Mike it seems like a good race to me. You have nothing to lose!! Its all on Bill.
But I thought Langer was the first race for Bill. Didn't GreatGTO say awhile back that they'd take Langer down?

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Mike it seems like a good race to me. You have nothing to lose!! Its all on Bill.
But I thought Langer was the first race for Bill. Didn't GreatGTO say awhile back that they'd take Langer down?

... trust me EC, "IF" my Camaro has anything for Langer, you guys will be the first to know about it, ok ?? ...

... but for such an inexperienced nobody, you guys sure are asking a lot from me huh ?? ... wow ... Aim High right ??? ...

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... trust me EC, if my Camaro has anything for Langer, you guys will be the first to know about it, ok ?? ...

Sounds good to me. I hope everything goes good for you this year and your Camaro sees some track time.
GreatGTO is the one putting the expectations on you not us

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok Mike, i guess the only thing i can offer you, is when we show up with my CV-1/Camaro, you'll be the first person i race, hows that ?? ...

... and i know this is not what i'd call a fair race, but it's all i got Mike, and we're close to $40,000 on this car and its engine, and counting, so have you dropped that kinda' coin on your car this year Mike ?? Maybe so, i dont know, but we are doing the best we can ... what do you want me to do, rob a bank ?? ...

... and considering you and Kinsler have 10yrs in your set up's, i think we're doing pretty good considering, and i've only been around the CV-1 program for about 3 yrs, most of which did not involve the Camaro project, so how bout a little patience huh ??? ...

I don't have 30 in mine over the whole 25 years i've owned it unless you count gas. I'll run ya, but theres a big gap between us. For crying out loud there has to be a guy that can make the heads up deal? NO?

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

OK I guess if you make it. so i have to give you 90 inches 300 lbs. ok I'll do it. You better PHUKIN kill me or you will look like a fool.

Originally Posted by mike leech

I don't have 30 in mine over the whole 25 years i've owned it unless you count gas. I'll run ya, but theres a big gap between us. For crying out loud there has to be a guy that can make the heads up deal? NO?

... huh ?? 300lbs ?? what does your car weigh Mike ?? you weigh over 3,500lbs ?? ... so you are 480c.i.'s Mike ?? ...

... but hey, what do you have to worry about Mike, i'm runnin' the POS CVWhat heads remember ?? ... you aint got nothing to be worried about, lol ...

... heck, as a matter of fact, you should give me the leave too, and 300lbs, and 90 c.i.'s, and an extra car length because i'm a nobody, right ?? ...

... heck, i might need you to teach me how to drive my own car, considering i have no track experience, right ?? ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... huh ?? 300lbs ?? what does your car weigh Mike ?? you weigh over 3,500lbs ?? ... so you are 480c.i.'s Mike ?? ...

... but hey, what do you have to worry about Mike, i'm runnin' the POS CVWhat heads remember ?? ... you aint got nothing to be worried about, lol ...

... heck, as a matter of fact, you should give me the leave too, and 300lbs, and 90 c.i.'s, and an extra car length because i'm a nobody, right ?? ...

... heck, i might need you to teach me how to drive my own car, considering i have no track experience, right ?? ...

All that would be funnier if it wasn't so "in line" with what you guys always want. you have to have the bigger motor and lighter car...hell you want to spray too? All i gotta say is ain't skeerd! Man you better be ready and have your poop in a group or its gonna suck for you...just sayin. You would never live that down... the ECM would poor gas on you and light you on fire if i wooped ya.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

All that would be funnier if it wasn't so "in line" with what you guys always want. you have to have the bigger motor and lighter car...hell you want to spray too? All i gotta say is ain't skeerd! Man you better be ready and have your poop in a group or its gonna suck for you...just sayin. You would never live that down... the ECM would poor gas on you and light you on fire if i wooped ya.

... i assure you my Camaro wont weigh less then your Firebird, but yes, it will be more cubes, i cant help that, no disrespect Mike, but the Camaro isn't being built for your car, but that is the best i can do ...

... but do you think i seriously expect to loose that race Mike ?? ... ... i hope you are good on the tree bud ...

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... but hey, what do you have to worry about Mike, i'm runnin' the POS CVWhat heads remember ?? ... you aint got nothing to be worried about, lol ...

you are putting every effort you can to make this motor fast. thats why its taking so long to build it. your leaving no stone unturned. which is great... this is truly a MAX effort piece.. I would not be happy building a max effort 572 motor and say I beat kinslers car.there are plenty of cars faster than my junk... Like greatgto said you should be with Langer,John Snyder,Dwight and those fast NA guys. that would prove how good the head really is.. and if you do beat those guys or run the same times as them then NO ONE can ever say the heads are junk or cant make power.. end of story..

[GTOGEORGE]

GTO George

[bad69bird]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

you are putting every effort you can to make this motor fast. thats why its taking so long to build it. your leaving no stone unturned. which is great... this is truly a MAX effort piece.. I would not be happy building a max effort 572 motor and say I beat kinslers car.there are plenty of cars faster than my junk... Like greatgto said you should be with Langer,John Snyder,Dwight and those fast NA guys. that would prove how good the head really is.. and if you do beat those guys or run the same times as them then NO ONE can ever say the heads are junk or cant make power.. end of story..

Well stated...

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

you are putting every effort you can to make this motor fast. thats why its taking so long to build it. your leaving no stone unturned. which is great... this is truly a MAX effort piece.. I would not be happy building a max effort 572 motor and say I beat kinslers car.there are plenty of cars faster than my junk... Like greatgto said you should be with Langer,John Snyder,Dwight and those fast NA guys. that would prove how good the head really is.. and if you do beat those guys or run the same times as them then NO ONE can ever say the heads are junk or cant make power.. end of story..

Very well put. And to be honest those names listed are a LOT close in cid than anyone else and would be much more of an even match up.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

you are putting every effort you can to make this motor fast. thats why its taking so long to build it. your leaving no stone unturned. which is great... this is truly a MAX effort piece.. I would not be happy building a max effort 572 motor and say I beat kinslers car.there are plenty of cars faster than my junk... Like greatgto said you should be with Langer,John Snyder,Dwight and those fast NA guys. that would prove how good the head really is.. and if you do beat those guys or run the same times as them then NO ONE can ever say the heads are junk or cant make power.. end of story..

... thank you Jeff, this type of perspective is ALL i'm asking for from anyone, Jeff has just mapped out what our objectives are for the Camaro Project ...

... and the effective word in Jeff's statement is (IF) ... i'm not making guarrantees, or retarded predictions, but we are aiming high, yes, as we want to see where we stack up at that level ...

... and we're spending our own money to do it, so at least after all this CV-1,ECM,2500 Ports, KUHKKHKJttfmR's stuff passes, it looks like i will still be able to walk up to Jeff face to face, and him still shake my hand ...

... just like i did last year at Norwalk, when Jeff busted his first 8sec pass at Norwalk, i was one of the first to walk up and shake his hand and congratulate him for it ...

... Nice, thank you Jeff ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... and i know this is not what i'd call a fair race, but it's all i got Mike, and we're close to $40,000 on this car and its engine, and counting, so have you dropped that kinda' coin on your car this year Mike ?? Maybe so, i dont know, but we are doing the best we can ... what do you want me to do, rob a bank ?? ...

What happened to cv1 horsepower is cheap??? I thought you guys were mr budget????

Like i said I'll run ya if thats where you want to go, I think johns your huckleberry.....And a better match. But since you guys just won't race without some ridiculous advantage I'll give you the 75 i guess it is cu,and daren morgan double throwdown help, just so we all can finally see somebody race if your to chicken to face john...With john you really will have a 90 ci advantage.