[Mads575]

Originally Posted by Amigo-2k

I'm hoping you missed a "0" on your yearly funds ....

what you are talking about with a frame off restoration, and farming out some of the stuff, you are looking at 35,000 on up to complete it ...

Post some photos ....

I would take the 1500 and get it running and safe to drive first .... then enjoy it for a couple of years and see where life takes you ... if you rip it apart it will be worth less if 5 years from now your family decides to sell it.

So your saying it will be more than $18000 to restore the car?? What I meant is $1500 a month to spend on the car and like I said, I'm keeping the car for life!!! This car belonged to a deceased uncle of my family and it will remain in my family or in my care until I'm dead!!

What I mean is "I want to take the frame/body off the chassis and get it all painted and redone.... like the title says "GROUND UP"

[mct37]

Originally Posted by Mads575

So your saying it will be more than $18000 to restore the car?? What I meant is $1500 a month to spend on the car and like I said, I'm keeping the car for life!!! This car belonged to a deceased uncle of my family and it will remain in my family or in my care until I'm dead!!

What I mean is "I want to take the frame/body off the chassis and get it all painted and redone.... like the title says "GROUND UP"

Mads - PM sent, Franks Pontiac just did a 70 and has some sheet metal. PY has a good selection you should familiarize yourself with too. If you are thrifty and patient - and dont mind stripping a junker or 3, you can do that budget but freight for parts has to be considered (just ask Loffen).

[mct37]

Originally Posted by Mads575

So your saying it will be more than $18000 to restore the car?? What I meant is $1500 a month to spend on the car and like I said, I'm keeping the car for life!!! This car belonged to a deceased uncle of my family and it will remain in my family or in my care until I'm dead!!

What I mean is "I want to take the frame/body off the chassis and get it all painted and redone.... like the title says "GROUND UP"

Give us a little info: engine CI, auto or manual, bench or buckets, a/c, etc. what do you have from factory? What are ext / int colors?

[Mads575]

Originally Posted by mct37

Give us a little info: engine CI, auto or manual, bench or buckets, a/c, etc. what do you have from factory? What are ext / int colors?

mct37

Its hard to say because the engine was replaced so many times and before my time my uncle actually changed the interior. The engine was a 450 my uncle and step-dad put in then my step-dad removed it and replaced it with a 350 (I think the original engine). We have 3 engines laying around our yard that can be used but I don't know were to begin. The was drive able at one point in the past because I remember driving it myself but I dont know what happened because I took off to the Army. The interior was originally bucket seats with a console and he changed it to a bench seat. Also I believe the steering column was pulled out and changed because everything I see has the gear selector located in the center on the console but the car has it on the steering column.

Photos will follow tomorrow and I hope I get some good feed back.. Lol!!

[mct37]

Originally Posted by Mads575

mct37

Its hard to say because the engine was replaced so many times and before my time my uncle actually changed the interior. The engine was a 450 my uncle and step-dad put in then my step-dad removed it and replaced it with a 350 (I think the original engine). We have 3 engines laying around our yard that can be used but I don't know were to begin. The was drive able at one point in the past because I remember driving it myself but I dont know what happened because I took off to the Army. The interior was originally bucket seats with a console and he changed it to a bench seat. Also I believe the steering column was pulled out and changed because everything I see has the gear selector located in the center on the console but the car has it on the steering column.

Photos will follow tomorrow and I hope I get some good feed back.. Lol!!

Unusual to go from console to tree and from buckets to bench, normally the other way around.

Before you get too dirty, you should get some of the details about the factory setup from your VIN. Check either Fisher Body Manual or Pontiac Service Manual for details on what the VIN number represents. That will also enable you to see the production numbers for your particular setup. If you dont have any manuals, you can also search this 70-72 forum or the web for info on what the VIN numbers mean. You might want to get manuals if you dont have them ($30 - $40 on cd, you can print what you need or make binders).

greg's advice to take pics of everything is really critical and so is "70 Lemans" direction to bag and tag everything. As obvious as it might seem to go together at the time, life happens, a week or a month goes by and you'll kick yourself for not taking that extra time for pics and part and hardware identification. plus having the pics of before and after will be very gratifying.

[mct37]

Originally Posted by Mads575

mct37

Its hard to say because the engine was replaced so many times and before my time my uncle actually changed the interior. The engine was a 450 my uncle and step-dad put in then my step-dad removed it and replaced it with a 350 (I think the original engine). We have 3 engines laying around our yard that can be used but I don't know were to begin. The was drive able at one point in the past because I remember driving it myself but I dont know what happened because I took off to the Army. The interior was originally bucket seats with a console and he changed it to a bench seat. Also I believe the steering column was pulled out and changed because everything I see has the gear selector located in the center on the console but the car has it on the steering column.

Photos will follow tomorrow and I hope I get some good feed back.. Lol!!

You will have trouble posting pics due to file size. We all do. Everyone seems to have a different way to compact the file too. One way I learned from this forum is to upload pics to your hard drive, open the file in MS Paint, select "Image" (from toolbar), then select "Stretch / Skew" and reduce the % in the horizontal and vertical boxes (use same number for both) to say 60%, save to a different filename, reopen the file and check the file size. Actually takes longer to explain than to actually do this, its pretty straightforward.

[Loffen]

Or just use www.photobucket.com pretty easy and works just fine

[Loffen]

And as most her say, label box and take a lot of pictures.
Also try to think ahead, my advice is that you first strip the body you do not need to take apart every single item an example is the dash, just take it out as a complete unit.

When you are done lift it from the frame and ship it to the paint/body shop, then take out the engine /transmission and send it to the shop, then goes the suspension and rear axle.

Now you can start with the frame, in my mind this is the first part of the car that should be restored if you take a ground up restauration, then suspension and so on.

Both the paintshop and engine shop will take time, try to plan ahead and order part early, you will get an idea of what you need when you start to take the car apart, take notes of everything that does not work or need repairs as you go.