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Old 03-22-2013, 08:00 AM
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I think we can thank Fred,Jim and others for preserving the info for PMD.

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Old 03-22-2013, 08:19 AM
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I think we can thank Fred,Jim and others for preserving the info for PMD.
Amen to that! Thanks to their efforts, Pontiac is the cream of the crop!

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Old 03-22-2013, 08:48 PM
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The truth isnt pretty - but glad we have the real facts about it.

Doesn't seem like it was real long ago when what i mentioned - was said .
Must have been dated info - that was even pre-dated when given. lol

Sounds like it had "some" truth , that grew into half-truthes , and then sorta took on some other residue along the way .

Thanks Jim

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Old 03-22-2013, 09:28 PM
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If that info did ever become available there would be a whole lot of unhappy Chevy owners and restorers.

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Old 03-23-2013, 08:03 AM
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My brother spent 25 years researching and documenting original owner Chevys from 1959 to 1974 with a goal of developing a comprehensive decoding service for Chevrolets. He launched the website about 1.5 years ago, I posted about it on this site. He went out of his way to state emphatically that his site (Classic Auto DNA) was a decoding service not an authentication service like PHS. He also put a lot of stuff on his site and reports warning about potential fraud, restamps, etc. His site even provided photos of original trim tags (from original owner verified cars) and stampings from various assembly plants to help people avoid "made up" cars. His serevice just never took off because a lot of his info is available if you buy all the right books.
During his site development we went to a large well-known auction and attempted to decode cars that were presented as "numbers matching" etc. We decoded (148) 1959-1974 musclecars - Impalas, Chevelles, Camaros, Corvettes. Out of those 148 cars presented as "numbers matching" we found 37 cars where the trim tag matched the current paint/trim/options on the car and had original stampings on the block. It was amazing how bad some of the block restamps were done. Once you know what to look for, they are not hard to spot.
For all those that commented on how there would be a lot of unhappy Chevy owners if there ever was a service to authenticate their car.....you are absolutely correct. Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on where you sit, that will never happen.

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what does the gm heritage center charge and what do you get? got a link to their contact info? thanks

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Old 03-23-2013, 10:41 AM
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what does the gm heritage center charge and what do you get? got a link to their contact info? thanks
Here you go http://www.gmheritagecenter.com/gm-h...tion-kits.html

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Old 03-23-2013, 01:49 PM
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what does the gm heritage center charge and what do you get? got a link to their contact info? thanks
Alvin has provided the link to the free .pdf file downloads of information kits, as originally shown in post #7. These are generic production details regarding RPO and content for the various GM models. They are typically between 100 and 200 pages long, so you'll want to click on a sample vehicle of interest to check it out.

For 77 and newer vehicles you can purchase the actual invoice (including selected RPOs and pricing) for your specific vehicle. For $50 and your VIN you get a document that looks like this:



Notice they spelled my name wrong 26 years ago when I ordered this truck.

Link for the purchased material is here: http://www.gmmediaarchive.com/, as Stuart posted in #2.

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