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11-02-2013, 08:50 AM
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I have been trying to document 69 Judge's for past 15 years plus which lead to my full time hobby in the creation of the 69 Judge registry. My main focus at first was on documenting Liberty Blue, Warwick Blue, Windward Blue, and Crystal Turquoise cars as these cars are my favorites. I have talked with many owners thru the years, have seen in person or looked at pictures of several original paint blue cars and time and time again when the judge stripe topic came up we would always see these blue cars came with Red/White/Black stripes.
Now if you look in pontiac books as well as every aftermarket book you will see a listing for the 69 blue judges as Yellow/Red/Blue stripes. We have seen that pontiac would release part books, literature, ect ahead of the next model year and from time time the pontiac work would find mistakes, or things that were suppose to be released a certain way, be changed at the beginning of production ect. I am basing the following statement on facts that we have collected the past 15 plus years that NO blue 69 judge came with the yellow/red/blue stripe from the factory, but rather came with the red/white/black stripe. I would love to to have anyone show me a 69 blue judge that originally came with the yellow/red/blue stripe from the factory, as I will say with 100% certainly you will not be able to. I am confident as I have seen enough original cars, talked with enough original owners, and seen enough pictures taken when these cars were new or fairly new to make this statement This topic is kind of like the INCORRECT air cleaner lid decals that everyone seems to be putting on their cars. Pontiac NEVER put the 400-4V, 400-RAM AIR, ect decals on their air cleaner lids, BUICK DID !!!!!! Phoenixgraphics, though I know you are basing your charts from the pontiac books, it might be a start in the right direction to consider changing your charts to make this correction. I would be more then happy to speak with you to maybe make you consider this change. This is my 2 cents on this topic, and if anyone else has a 69 BLUE judge with original stripes, has pictures, or is a original owner, please contact me as I bet your car has/had red/black/whites stripes and would like to get it added to have more confirmation for original and correctness. Thanks, Tim
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11-02-2013, 10:08 AM
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So is this what the stripe pairing should be?
1969 GTO "Judge" Color Codes Car Paint Color - Stripe Color Starlight Black - Yellow/Red/BLUE Cameo White - Yellow/Red/BLUE Palladium Silver - Yellow/Red/BLUE Carousel Red - Yellow/Red/BLUE Limelight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Midnight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Verdoro Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Mayfair Maize - White/Yellow/OLIVE Warwick Blue - White/Red/BLACK Liberty Blue - White/Red/BLACK Crystal Turquoise - White/Red/BLACK Espresso Brown - White/Red/BLACK Antique Gold - White/Red/BLACK Burgundy - White/Red/BLACK Matador Red - White/Red/BLACK Champagne - White/Red/BLACK Carousel Red** - Yellow/Red/BLACK **February and later models use this color 
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11-03-2013, 02:08 PM
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Thanks for typing up the color/stripe list in this thread. To answer your question, YES that looks correct for what appears the pontiac factory's did, and not what the book calls for. The only thing that I see needs to be added is the special order firebird color "Windward Blue" which would also have the red/white/black stripe.
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11-03-2013, 08:53 PM
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Thanks.
Updated: 1969 GTO "Judge" Color Codes Car Paint Color - Stripe Color Starlight Black - Yellow/Red/BLUE Cameo White - Yellow/Red/BLUE Palladium Silver - Yellow/Red/BLUE Carousel Red - Yellow/Red/BLUE Limelight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Midnight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Verdoro Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Mayfair Maize - White/Yellow/OLIVE Windward Blue - White/Red/BLACK Warwick Blue - White/Red/BLACK Liberty Blue - White/Red/BLACK Crystal Turquoise - White/Red/BLACK Espresso Brown - White/Red/BLACK Antique Gold - White/Red/BLACK Burgundy - White/Red/BLACK Matador Red - White/Red/BLACK Champagne - White/Red/BLACK Carousel Red** - Yellow/Red/BLACK **February and later models use this color 
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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11-03-2013, 10:54 PM
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11-04-2013, 07:57 AM
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Update II:
1969 GTO "Judge" Color Codes Car Paint Color - Stripe Color Starlight Black - Yellow/Red/BLUE Cameo White - Yellow/Red/BLUE Palladium Silver - Yellow/Red/BLUE Carousel Red - Yellow/Red/BLUE Limelight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Midnight Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Verdoro Green - White/Yellow/OLIVE Mayfair Maize - White/Yellow/OLIVE Windward Blue - White/Red/BLACK Warwick Blue - White/Red/BLACK Liberty Blue - White/Red/BLACK Crystal Turquoise - White/Red/BLACK Espresso Brown - White/Red/BLACK Antique Gold - White/Red/BLACK Burgundy - White/Red/BLACK Matador Red - White/Red/BLACK Champagne - White/Red/BLACK Carousel Red** - Yellow/Red/BLACK **February and later models switched to this color, but different plant use may switch later when inventory used up
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John Wallace - johnta1 Pontiac Power RULES !!! www.wallaceracing.com Winner of Top Class at Pontiac Nationals, 2004 Cordova Winner of Quick 16 At Ames 2004 Pontiac Tripower Nats KRE's MR-1 - 1st 5 second Pontiac block ever! W.E.C moment "Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts." "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." – Socrates |
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11-04-2013, 03:26 PM
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