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Old 12-20-2013, 08:11 PM
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400 4spd. Why do you think it would increase the value?............

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I think the other responses have my reasons covered, but to sum it up here goes. The non original engine, the poor performance of the 2 speed auto, and the over all appeal of a the 4 speed/convertible combination are the reasons I think that.
Because the ST300 was nothing for bragging rights, I think the swap would have less of a positive effect on the later and better TH400 equipped cars.
Besides, you'll probably feel like you're behind a stronger engine just from the seat-of-the-pants difference.
That's my .

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Old 12-21-2013, 02:07 AM
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I think the other responses have my reasons covered, but to sum it up here goes. The non original engine, the poor performance of the 2 speed auto, and the over all appeal of a the 4 speed/convertible combination are the reasons I think that.
Because the ST300 was nothing for bragging rights, I think the swap would have less of a positive effect on the later and better TH400 equipped cars.
Besides, you'll probably feel like you're behind a stronger engine just from the seat-of-the-pants difference.
That's my .
No disagreement here at all with what you are saying. I looked at a beautiful 65 4 speed about 2 years before I bought this car. The car was originally an auto and the owner put in the 4 speed transmission. Can't remember, but I believe that the engine might have been replaced as well. It was a 389 though. I just loved the pick up the car had and was very impressed with the speed attained as we never got out of third gear before having to slow down for a stop sign or make a turn. We never got out on the hwy. My car with the automatic is quite slow. It would be nice to step on the gas and be pushed back in the seat like the 2006 goat does with the 66, as the rumble of the 389 engine winding up is quite different than the 6.0L.

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For most of us a 4 speed is more desireable.... and fun. I've never owned an automatic GTO. 1st one and the one I have now are 4speed cars. The only GTO I've driven with an automatic was Old Goat 67s with the Turo 400. I have to admit tho it was fun to drive for an automatic. Faster than hell too. And I know why he put Hydroboost in it.... so you can freekin stop it. LOL

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No disagreement here at all with what you are saying. I looked at a beautiful 65 4 speed about 2 years before I bought this car. The car was originally an auto and the owner put in the 4 speed transmission. Can't remember, but I believe that the engine might have been replaced as well. It was a 389 though. I just loved the pick up the car had and was very impressed with the speed attained as we never got out of third gear before having to slow down for a stop sign or make a turn. We never got out on the hwy. My car with the automatic is quite slow. It would be nice to step on the gas and be pushed back in the seat like the 2006 goat does with the 66, as the rumble of the 389 engine winding up is quite different than the 6.0L.
Nothing changes the character of a classic or muscle car as much as the addition of a clutch pedal.
My 67 Lemans convertible started life as a boring 326 2 speed automatic.
It's now an OHC 6 Sprint clone with an 89 T-5
Much more fun.
I plan on changing out my 66 2+2 from an automatic into a 4 speed.
Like yours, it's original 421 was gone long before I bought it.
A 68 4 bolt main 428 will have to do for as long as I drive it.
It's a heavily optioned car, but like others have stated, it might actually increase it's value since it will never be a high dollar show car.
At least not as long as I own it.

You intend to keep it forever.
Build it like you want, not what's "correct"
Save everything you swap out.
You will definitely enjoy it more.

Ron

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Will do Daryl. You can go around the tolls coming up and back on 95.... except for the DMB's 4.00 toll going south. RT 1 is has no tolls. I can give you directions too.

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