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Old 12-22-2013, 12:50 PM
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As you know mathematics is the only true universal language.

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There's quite a few math guys as well as engineers in here.

If everything is calculated, then every high end class builder wouldn't need a dyno, track testing, etc. All we would need is just a lab!!

For nearly 20 years in the field, on the dyno, flowbench, and racetrack. I am reminded of how imperfect engines, induction systems can be!

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Old 12-22-2013, 01:09 PM
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There's quite a few math guys as well as engineers in here.

If everything is calculated, then every high end class builder wouldn't need a dyno, track testing, etc. All we would need is just a lab!!

For nearly 20 years in the field, on the dyno, flowbench, and racetrack. I am reminded of how imperfect engines, induction systems can be!
Gaby,
If the empirical data does not match the equations something is wrong. The next questions are which and why.

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If the empirical data does not match the equations something is wrong. The next questions are which and why.

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I suspect the EQUATION is wrong or at least incomplete. There are things going on inside a running engine that either dont have a proper formula or are not being applied correctly. They have had to develop mega super computers to duplicate and explain the expansion of the universe, I suspect it would take similar equations to evaluate an engines power potencial, given all the variables, seen and unseen.-------- am I wrong ????

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Old 12-22-2013, 04:16 PM
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Wow... you are really up on this stuff aren't you? The rules in PST were 2300 pounds.
WOW!!!!
Guess not.

Pro Stock Truck hasn't ran for over 10 years.
I didn't follow it anyway, have no clue what their specs were.

Just using 2300 weight and 7.43 ET, around 1100 HP.


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WOW!!!!
Guess not.

Pro Stock Truck hasn't ran for over 10 years.
I didn't follow it anyway, have no clue what their specs were.

Just using 2300 weight and 7.43 ET, around 1100 HP.

That was good of you to put your figure up to show just how inaccurate you are on these sort of things! You honestly believe that a overhead valve traditional American V8 with pushrods makes over 3 horsepower per inch??? I appreciate you showing that you know absolutely nothing about these type of engines and their applications. By the way... you should NEVER figure horsepower off of ET. Just wow!

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[QUOTE=Daniel Barton;5091717] You honestly believe that a overhead valve traditional American V8 with pushrods makes over 3 horsepower per inch??? /QUOTE]



http://youtu.be/HihdoLYhWy8

... this one makes right on 2.9 per cube ...

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You honestly believe that a overhead valve traditional American V8 with pushrods makes over 3 horsepower per inch??? /QUOTE]



http://youtu.be/HihdoLYhWy8

... this one makes right on 2.9 per cube ...
2.875 to be exact

Yes we make 1140-1150 with our ANDRA pro stock stuff. Those are some sweet little smallblocks.

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Old 12-23-2013, 08:02 PM
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You honestly believe that a overhead valve traditional American V8 with pushrods makes over 3 horsepower per inch??? /QUOTE]



http://youtu.be/HihdoLYhWy8

... this one makes right on 2.9 per cube ...
2.875 per inch is bad ass, but it is not 3.0 per inch which on a 400 is a difference of 50 very expensive and time consuming horsepower to find on an engine like that! The 3.07 number per inch that was thrown out would require another 29 horsepower to be picked up,again.... by NO means a small feat! On a 358" engine the difference between 2.875 to 3.07 is 70 horsepower! In terms of engines like this, that is no mole hill, that is a mountain!

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