[Bill Eveland]

Harry, any speculation of testing if you would have used a qjet on the oe manifold than used an adapter to mount it to the square bore intake? Thanks

[harry k]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

Harry, any speculation of testing if you would have used a qjet on the oe manifold than used an adapter to mount it to the square bore intake? Thanks

cfm is cfm, whatever cfm you elect to use @ WOT not matter what carb it is or has been used, the power outcome@peak rpm will be the same.

[GOAT WHORE]

Originally Posted by harry k

cfm is cfm, whatever cfm you elect to use @ WOT not matter what carb it is or has been used, the power outcome@peak rpm will be the same.

Harry this makes no sense at all. You used the same carb in your dyno pulls with different results. Same carb, same cfm, different power levels. Cfm is cfm but it changes acording to the parts you use.

[harry k]

Originally Posted by GOAT WHORE

Harry this makes no sense at all. You used the same carb in your dyno pulls with different results. Same carb, same cfm, different power levels. Cfm is cfm but it changes acording to the parts you use.

usually i don't rationalise with someone uses the name "WHORE"
but i ll make it clear in this case
keyword here "acording to the parts you use" yes i used high rise aluminum intake manifold which benifited the engine.NOT A MODIFIED CAST IRON INTAKE MANIFOLD THAT REQUIRES TO RUN Q-JET AND ASSOCIATED FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM TO SUPPLEMENT A SMALL BOWL CARB THAT NEEDS ALL THE HELP IN THE WORLD TO MAKE THEM WORK TO SIMPLY MEET A HOLLEY OR EDELBROCK CARB PERFORMANCE!!!!

[GOAT WHORE]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

Harry, any speculation of testing if you would have used a qjet on the oe manifold than used an adapter to mount it to the square bore intake? Thanks

Originally Posted by harry k

cfm is cfm, whatever cfm you elect to use @ WOT not matter what carb it is or has been used, the power outcome@peak rpm will be the same.

Originally Posted by harry k

usually i don't rationalise with someone uses the name "WHORE"
but i ll make it clear in this case
keyword here "acording to the parts you use" yes i used high rise aluminum intake manifold which benifited the engine.NOT A MODIFIED CAST IRON INTAKE MANIFOLD THAT REQUIRES TO RUN Q-JET AND ASSOCIATED FUEL DELIVERY SYSTEM TO SUPPLEMENT A SMALL BOWL CARB THAT NEEDS ALL THE HELP IN THE WORLD TO MAKE THEM WORK TO SIMPLY MEET A HOLLEY OR EDELBROCK CARB PERFORMANCE!!!!

Bill asked a question pertaining to two different combos and your respomce was that it did not matter, that they would both have the same power outcome. Really
Let me ask you this, why did your high rise manifold make more power over the stock intake? Could it have anything to do with airflow? More cfm? A better match of parts? By your logic there should have not been any difference in power.
I realise that you can swap parts with no power gains but the whole point of this thread was to show that there was a gain.
And by the way, how often do you get the chance to rationalize with someone that has Whore in there name

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by harry k

cfm is cfm, whatever cfm you elect to use @ WOT not matter what carb it is or has been used, the power outcome@peak rpm will be the same.

Not if the manifold vacuum measured at WOT at peak power is different.

Stan

[harry k]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

Not if the manifold vacuum measured at WOT at peak power is different.

Stan

Stan
i have used the 5"dia. vacuum gauge where i have gave up on it anymore,
How many times on wot dyno pulls or track passes you been able to see or barely get to defrentiate the difference ? the increments are so small and it wiggles so much on the engines were measuring (specifically within 600cfm range carbs used) you barely get to measure anything if you want to become sceintific.Thanks for listening.

[Bill Eveland]

The whole point of your thread was to show the power increase in an "apples to apples" test by your standards by switching intake manifolds. Now how can it not be by using a differant carb for testing and flipping around the scenario with the spacers and still swapping out intakes? Maybe that can be round #3 .

Originally Posted by harry k

cfm is cfm, whatever cfm you elect to use @ WOT not matter what carb it is or has been used, the power outcome@peak rpm will be the same.

[harry k]

Originally Posted by Bill Eveland

The whole point of your thread was to show the power increase in an "apples to apples" test by your standards by switching intake manifolds. Now how can it not be by using a differant carb for testing and flipping around the scenario with the spacers and still swapping out intakes? Maybe that can be round #3 .

Bill
I can easily get the customer back in and remove the E carb and throw a Q-jet on and test it or remove the high rise intake install cast iron pos intake back on and install Q-jet if you are curious what would the results will be for round #3 if that what you're implying, BUT the main thing would be here is the critiques will still cry at this point further again cause the Q-jet isnt built to a one book standards......OR and create further critisim in any nature.

Rest assured that i will post something else further down the road as has been very appreciated by most forum members for my time & testing and we"ll see if history does't repeats itself.

[NeighborsComplaint]

Originally Posted by harry k

Bill
I can easily get the customer back in and remove the E carb and throw a Q-jet on and test it or remove the high rise intake install cast iron pos intake back on and install Q-jet if you are curious what would the results will be for round #3 if that what you're implying, BUT the main thing would be here is the critiques will still cry at this point further again cause the Q-jet isnt built to a one book standards......OR and create further critisim in any nature.

Rest assured that i will post something else further down the road as has been very appreciated by most forum members for my time & testing and we"ll see if history does't repeats itself.

It won't. This would be a real controlled experiment or an "apples to apples" comparison, if you prefer. If you are comparing the relative performace of 2 intakes, the only thing you change are the intakes. The only deviation you might dial in is if you optimized the tune for each setup (jetting for optimal A/F mixture and timing for best HP/TQ).

Sure you may get some comments like "Wow, that motor is pretty low/high on HP or TQ" relative to my on motor, experince, etc., but no one can dispute the gain or loss relative to the baseline if you changed nothing else.

[Bill Eveland]

Well without any baseline test with matched componets , to me this is about the hp lost not gained

Originally Posted by harry k

Bill
I can easily get the customer back in and remove the E carb and throw a Q-jet on and test it or remove the high rise intake install cast iron pos intake back on and install Q-jet if you are curious what would the results will be for round #3 if that what you're implying, BUT the main thing would be here is the critiques will still cry at this point further again cause the Q-jet isnt built to a one book standards......OR and create further critisim in any nature.

Rest assured that i will post something else further down the road as has been very appreciated by most forum members for my time & testing and we"ll see if history does't repeats itself.