[Formulabruce]

Ethanol Alcohol will eat your carb fuel pump, your mechanical fuel pump, and other gaskets in the carb.
Newer cars for flex are equipped to run this, HOWEVER
Look at a window sticker on a new truck ( take the 5.3)
Cruising range ...................380 miles
Cruising range on E-85.........218 miles
The more alcohol, the worse fuel economy, even though it has more base octane rating, its piss poor in the mass density dept.
Also E85 costs over 1 dollar MORE per Gallon to make, than it sells for ( subsidy.. federal taxes pay that)
E15 is over the limit on what "most" car fuel pumps/systems can handle and put a new kind of corrosion in your engine.
Fix? none. Its a money pit, pay taxes to subsidize, and pay for additives and pay for retrofits. While Volcanoes blow off more debris than any country could in 200 years, in One Day!
The EPA was given, by the Senate 3 years ago, the Complete power to implement and make more regs dating back to 1973.
Expect to see more "dreamy" ideas.. only fix is to complain to your reps...

[NBF823]

Originally Posted by Formulabruce

Ethanol Alcohol will eat your carb fuel pump, your mechanical fuel pump, and other gaskets in the carb.
Newer cars for flex are equipped to run this, HOWEVER
Look at a window sticker on a new truck ( take the 5.3)
Cruising range ...................380 miles
Cruising range on E-85.........218 miles
The more alcohol, the worse fuel economy, even though it has more base octane rating, its piss poor in the mass density dept.
Also E85 costs over 1 dollar MORE per Gallon to make, than it sells for ( subsidy.. federal taxes pay that)
E15 is over the limit on what "most" car fuel pumps/systems can handle and put a new kind of corrosion in your engine.
Fix? none. Its a money pit, pay taxes to subsidize, and pay for additives and pay for retrofits. While Volcanoes blow off more debris than any country could in 200 years, in One Day!
The EPA was given, by the Senate 3 years ago, the Complete power to implement and make more regs dating back to 1973.
Expect to see more "dreamy" ideas.. only fix is to complain to your reps...

Well I think that's just it, there is no fix. What I thought, was that this was to slowly ween us off of a major gasoline dependence. I don't remember anyone saying we were going to like it, nor anyone saying they had something with the power to cost ratio of gasoline. What I thought I heard was; that there is only so much gasoline in the world, that other parts of the world have a growing demand for gasoline, and that at some point we as human beings will not have gasoline, and until that time, expect gasoline to grow increasingly more expensive.

I don't know that this will happen in our lifetimes, I don't know how much of the "gas crises" are political bs. But I do believe it is something that is currently non renewable.
But as far as I know, its a bad taste issue - it's just plain not gonna be easy. Maybe if we try, implement, start to look to, and somehow prepare for this impending, growing change, we can soften the blow on ourselves and future generations.

Please don't think that I'm one of those greeny Prius drivers, and that I'm out to make others change - I'm not, it's not my responsibility nor desire. What my standpoint is - is what can I make work. I'm a car enthusiast, and I have always been. I don't think, if I go to the gas station tomorrow, and gas is ten dollars, or even if there is no gas, will I stop being a car guy. I probably won't have a very good spell, but I think, I can make my cars adapt, so I could keep them.

I've already been having to adapt. Gas is already expensive, emissions requirements have already been imposed. On current projects, I have already adopted more expansive gearings, looked into and started acquiring fuel injection systems, Think about weight seriously, and expanded my outlook on what would be ideal mods for me. I clearly can't make that many changes all at once, I acquire more skill than cool cars, but what else could I do - just grin and bear it, and hang in there right?

[2002Z4CSS]

More Obama and his crew failing.