[johnta1]

Excellent question.

This is the Race Section Under Pontiac Tech

When I first started posting here there was a good number of technical threads. But for the past few month there has been much less technical discussions and much more **** threads.

So I am in the process of reevaluating what if any value this section (Race) has.

Clearly the Street and Boost section still have a great variety in topics and discussion.

I agree fully.

This used to be a great section, but now it's the 'Clubhouse' worse than the 'Lobby' where most of these posts belong.

Where's the 'technical' or 'race' stuff is, I don't know.
And no EHTTFMF is not race or technical.

Also thought the name calling, back stabbing, etc was not allowed.

But I guess if your an ECM fan it is OK.



I really thought when you came on this board it would really help the racers out.
Along with some of the other people that have came along also like Chad S. and others it was starting to get good.

But if we wanted a 'YB' type board we could always go there.

That is the main reason I don't go there is too much blowing and posturing and no real substance.

Guess it's time to find something else also.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by johnta1

I agree fully.

This used to be a great section, but now it's the 'Clubhouse' worse than the 'Lobby' where most of these posts belong.

Where's the 'technical' or 'race' stuff is, I don't know.
And no EHTTFMF is not race or technical.

Also thought the name calling, back stabbing, etc was not allowed.

But I guess if your an ECM fan it is OK.



I really thought when you came on this board it would really help the racers out.
Along with some of the other people that have came along also like Chad S. and others it was starting to get good.

But if we wanted a 'YB' type board we could always go there.

That is the main reason I don't go there is too much blowing and posturing and no real substance.

Guess it's time to find something else also.

JOHN,

Relax I'm not about to slam you. By technical discussions do you mean theoretical discussions of hypothesis and Ideas?

Or more like discussions on various parts,methods, and procedures to advance a particular racer in need of help or possibly us all.

Or does it look more like a couple guys discussing their Ideas and theories completely unchecked. Those theories and hypothesis are the GOLDEN rule and whomever has the best IDEA wins regardless of facts or some racers experience IN THAT VERY AREA.


THERES A WEALTH OF KNOWLEDGE HERE IN THE RACE SECTION.

lots of us help each other out of problems and improve each others combos. Some are only here to gain or share knowledge....thats cool too. The problems start when there is no separation between IDEAS and EXPERIENCE. THEN BACK AND FORTH. 9 times out of 10 that back and forth is someone with actual experience and more usable data asking for the IDEA to be verified with some facts.......THE SHEIT HITS THE FAN WHEN THE DANCE STARTS. Somewhere in here we need to insert the cheerleaders of products and vendors because of philosophy or emotional attachment, or detachment. Saying the IA2 sucks and the MR1 is the BEST while owning neither is just RIDICULOUS! If you examined the 2 and have an opinion fine....state it as such and move on. Same for heads.....and before either side gets all excited.....BOTH sides are evaluating each others performance. Failing to recognize the performance or lack of on either side makes you an emotional weiner. LOVE your favorite football team...hate the other guys if you want. This math and physics not an allegiance sport.

Would make for more useful and enjoyable forum if the IDEA guys would just say " why no I don't have any proof to back that up......Do you have some particular experience or useful data that you can share?" Both sides can potentially learn something here. The Idea guys can contribute as well as I'm always interested in ways to make hp or go faster with what I have...and so are others.

I won't sit idle while theories are discussed as facts. If you even have a reasonable argument for you theory OK cool I'll listen. But If guys want to feel like a big shot and say things that may cause just one person to waste their hard earned money......there are going to be folks to set the record strait. Just how it is

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by johnta1

I agree fully.

This used to be a great section, but now it's the 'Clubhouse' worse than the 'Lobby' where most of these posts belong.

Where's the 'technical' or 'race' stuff is, I don't know.
And no EHTTFMF is not race or technical.

Also thought the name calling, back stabbing, etc was not allowed.

But I guess if your an ECM fan it is OK.



I really thought when you came on this board it would really help the racers out.
Along with some of the other people that have came along also like Chad S. and others it was starting to get good.

But if we wanted a 'YB' type board we could always go there.

That is the main reason I don't go there is too much blowing and posturing and no real substance.

Guess it's time to find something else also.

You are the worst MFr here on that. You must have directly insulted my intelligence 10 frickin times in the rambling thread.

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by john marcella

You are the worst MFr here on that. You must have directly insulted my intelligence 10 frickin times in the rambling thread.

Without asking one question as to your experience with them!

[Jim Zeek]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Also thought the name calling, back stabbing, etc was not allowed.

hello pot this is kettle

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnta1 View Post
Look at how selling a block to an idiot turned out.


you never did answer my question of who you were talking about. come to think about it, you didn't post again in that thread after i asked who you were referring to

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Jim Zeek

Quote:
Originally Posted by johnta1 View Post
Look at how selling a block to an idiot turned out.

I got a $1000 bucks says he wont say to the persons face he was referring to.. He is just butt hurt because that "idiot" was right about the block...