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I predict before 2014 is out that I will run at least 9 teens N/A. and work towards the mid 8's with a mild shot......

Real Stock suspension, True 10" tire, 3425lbs, Street legal trim.

with 20 year old E-heads.

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I predict before 2014 is out that I will run at least 9 teens N/A. and work towards the mid 8's with a mild shot......

Real Stock suspension, True 10" tire, 3425lbs, Street legal trim.

with 20 year old E-heads.

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A "mild shot" WTF is that? Why bother, start off at 300 and go up from there!

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A "mild shot" WTF is that? Why bother, start off at 300 and go up from there!

Were you not the nitrous eminence at one point and time?
200 is maybe the limit with ring gaps runing and all the N/A stuff. I had my day in the sun. LOL.

I might "Step it up" later and pull the engine (reset the ring gaps, etc) put the old gears and converter in. Never say never right.

First gotta get it tuned with the E-heads being done by Chris Sikorski. Worked out a swap deal and he' is redoing a set of 1994 set of E-heads that I plugged the pushrod hole and widened the port, (The bare no pushrod head wasn't available back then) ported back then and let someone else phuck them up after telling me back then he could get another 20 cfm out of them. Flowed less after i got them back, dropped the valves .100 and almost had a fist fight over the deal. But jail didn't seem like a viable option at the time
Anyway. He has risen them from the dead and will be trying them out with the shortblock I currently have. Hope to have it running by then end of April. Cold weather has the money tree slim on pickin's. LOL.

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200 is maybe the limit with ring gaps runing and all the N/A stuff. I had my day in the sun. LOL.

I might "Step it up" later and pull the engine (reset the ring gaps, etc) put the old gears and converter in. Never say never right.

First gotta get it tuned with the E-heads being done by Chris Sikorski. Worked out a swap deal and he' is redoing a set of 1994 set of E-heads that I plugged the pushrod hole and widened the port, (The bare no pushrod head wasn't available back then) ported back then and let someone else phuck them up after telling me back then he could get another 20 cfm out of them. Flowed less after i got them back, dropped the valves .100 and almost had a fist fight over the deal. But jail didn't seem like a viable option at the time
Anyway. He has risen them from the dead and will be trying them out with the shortblock I currently have. Hope to have it running by then end of April. Cold weather has the money tree slim on pickin's. LOL.
I'll say never you dusty old fart! So now you have bigger compression and 200 lbs lighter, so you're ready to race! Don't you and others start this crap every year about this time? Go back under your rock and come out in the spring. (seriously hope you get rolling this year Ken)

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I'll say never you dusty old fart! So now you have bigger compression and 200 lbs lighter, so you're ready to race! Don't you and others start this crap every year about this time? Go back under your rock and come out in the spring. (seriously hope you get rolling this year Ken)
Bwahahahahahaha. Lighter? 3425 as it was............and maybe Only lighter because of all the aluminum Chris took out of my Heads and Intake.

Compression ?..........Hope it's still gonna be pump gas.

Yea me too on getting it running and Norwalk.

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Bwahahahahahaha. Lighter? 3425 as it was............and maybe Only lighter because of all the aluminum Chris took out of my Heads and Intake.

Compression ?..........Hope it's still gonna be pump gas.

Yea me too on getting it running and Norwalk.
This is what your ad stated when you had the car for sale:"This car has been 8.90's back in 2003 with BFG Drag Radials, single stage fogger and weighing 3690 then. Now around 3250 with 200 lb driver. Set up for Stock Suspension Real Street classes. Have owned it since the mid 90's." So I don't have my calculator on hand but I think 3470 minus 3250 equals 220 lbs. When did you take all the weight out?

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This is what your ad stated when you had the car for sale:"This car has been 8.90's back in 2003 with BFG Drag Radials, single stage fogger and weighing 3690 then. Now around 3250 with 200 lb driver. Set up for Stock Suspension Real Street classes. Have owned it since the mid 90's." So I don't have my calculator on hand but I think 3470 minus 3250 equals 220 lbs. When did you take all the weight out?
I think Dude is an honest guy...but...he is an old street racer and as such they've been know to camouflage the facts a bit when it comes to setting up a race.

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This is what your ad stated when you had the car for sale:"This car has been 8.90's back in 2003 with BFG Drag Radials, single stage fogger and weighing 3690 then. Now around 3250 with 200 lb driver. Set up for Stock Suspension Real Street classes. Have owned it since the mid 90's." So I don't have my calculator on hand but I think 3470 minus 3250 equals 220 lbs. When did you take all the weight out?
Have you met/seen Ken... he said 200 lb driver...

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This is what your ad stated when you had the car for sale:"This car has been 8.90's back in 2003 with BFG Drag Radials, single stage fogger and weighing 3690 then. Now around 3250 without 200 lb driver. Set up for Stock Suspension Real Street classes. Have owned it since the mid 90's." So I don't have my calculator on hand but I think 3470 minus 3250 equals 220 lbs. When did you take all the weight out?
Without driver. I used to weight 180................. those days are gone. Bwahahahahahahaha

Misprint. Besides After I, As LIL Jack says.......... Skull drag you down the track................ We can weight em. Did I just say that?


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I predict before 2014 is out that I will run at least 9 teens N/A. and work towards the mid 8's with a mild shot......

Real Stock suspension, True 10" tire, 3425lbs, Street legal trim.

with 20 year old E-heads.

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Compression works out to 12.75-1 but with the cam, the cranking compression shows (On the computer calculation, Bwahahahaha) that's it's 170 psi. Pump gas ?......... hummmmmm.

The pistons are coated and might try it if mjm421` gives me enough sh*t and still is running his pump gas combo. LOL.




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Compression works out to 12.75-1 but with the cam, the cranking compression shows (On the computer calculation, Bwahahahaha) that's it's 170 psi. Pump gas ?......... hummmmmm.

The pistons are coated and might try it if mjm421` gives me enough sh*t and still is running his pump gas combo. LOL.


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Do not know what the spec are for you engine. Lets say Bore = 4.185 - Stroke = 4.5 - Rod Length = 6.75. Using my calculator, for you to have a 170 PSI cranking compression you would have to have IVC @ 97 ABDC.

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Do not know what the spec are for you engine. Lets say Bore = 4.185 - Stroke = 4.5 - Rod Length = 6.75. Using my calculator, for you to have a 170 PSI cranking compression you would have to have IVC @ 97 ABDC.

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Used Performance Trends Engine dyno calculator. It spit out the results. I just input the info.

Try this.
Compression:12.75-1
Bore: 4.375
Stroke: 4.460
Rod length: 6.8

Cam specs: 283/[email protected]
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Used Performance Trends Engine dyno calculator. It spit out the results. I just input the info.

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Compression:12.75-1
Bore: 4.375
Stroke: 4.460
Rod length: 6.8

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My calculator uses seat numbers at the valve. Since weather has an effect this was run with temp = 70 and Barometric Pressure = 29.92

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My calculator uses seat numbers at the valve. Since weather has an effect this was run with temp = 70 and Barometric Pressure = 29.92

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Your chart shows the same 170 cranking psi

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Compression works out to 12.75-1 but with the cam, the cranking compression shows (On the computer calculation, Bwahahahaha) that's it's 170 psi. Pump gas ?......... hummmmmm.

The pistons are coated and might try it if mjm421` gives me enough sh*t and still is running his pump gas combo. LOL.


Thanks Ken. That is an interesting dilemma. I think Slowbird ran low, low nines with pump gas.

Regardless, good luck and look forward to seeing you out.

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Compression works out to 12.75-1 but with the cam, the cranking compression shows (On the computer calculation, Bwahahahaha) that's it's 170 psi. Pump gas ?......... hummmmmm.

The pistons are coated and might try it if mjm421` gives me enough sh*t and still is running his pump gas combo. LOL.


Im sure if you both siphon out your tanks at a gas station in town and drive back to the track then race with the same gas same pump he will take you up on that BEST 2 out of three wins......if yours is still alive mike will woop ya....jus sayin

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Im sure if you both siphon out your tanks at a gas station in town and drive back to the track then race with the same gas same pump he will take you up on that BEST 2 out of three wins......if yours is still alive mike will woop ya....jus sayin
Bwahahahahahahahahaha,
Sounds like a plan. But don't want to get the cart before the horse. Gotta get it put together first and make passes and tune. Just a prediction................ for now.












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I predict before 2014 is out that I will run at least 9 teens N/A. and work towards the mid 8's with a mild shot......

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with 20 year old E-heads.

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