[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Tom Vaught

Think we have had this discussion before.

1) Wade (BOP) and Wade's Engineer (Mark) report that the BOP Belt Drive system has been extremely reliable. As mentioned, there are quite a few BOP systems out there in use currently. To say that a unproven Belt Drive set-up is better is premature.

2) Anyone can copy anything. The deal is if you copy Gates belt design material or tooth profile hobbed into the drive and driven gear, Gates and their lawyers will get very angry with you. Jesel and BOP have an agreement with Gates regarding their Belt Drive systems.

3) Belts for Industrial equipment DO have very high load capabilities. Most Industrial belts though ARE NOT designed for HIGH RPM use. High RPM meaning 7000+ rpm.
If you want to win a race you had better be spinning the engine 7000+ rpm to have a chance of winning.

4) So you need to find a 1" belt that is the right length, the right tooth profile, and the right material to survive in a racing application, not an industrial rpm application.
Good Luck and I hope you get it figured out and installed by Norwalk.

5)
a) If the New Belt Drive uses a 1" wide belt of the same material as the BOP design, then it is a copy because Jesel and BOP are the only ones with that agreement with Gates.

b) If the New Belt Drive uses the same tooth count for the drive and driven gears then it is a copy.

c) If the New Belt Drive uses the same tooth profile as the BOP then it is a copy.

So the point is, ANYONE can COPY anything. Saying that the COPY is better than the Original (without ANY track time to back it up) sounds like a certain head deal gone bad from an over-enthusiastic group from the peanut gallery.

Just saying.

Tom V.

ps I was told that Wade hurt his back and might be out of commission for a while.
Prayers to Wade and his family.

... jesus Tom, are you insane ?? "LAWYERS ??? " ... seriously, you've made some large assumptions with your statement Tom, we have in no way shape or form copied BOP's belt drive ...

... what is wrong with you ?? ... you just grabbed the anchor here and jumped over-board, i mean there is not one single component in my belt drive that you'll find in BOP's belt drive ...

... especially considering they don't make it any more Tom ... lol ... and yes, it's bigger than just 1.000 wide, and yes, it has more load capacity, and is rated for "Extreme" high rpm usage Tom ...

... what else do you need to know ?? ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... jesus Tom, are you insane ?? "LAWYERS ??? " ... seriously, you've made some large assumptions with your statement Tom, we have in no way shape or form copied BOP's belt drive ...

... what is wrong with you ?? ... you just grabbed the anchor here and jumped over-board, i mean there is not one single component in my belt drive that you'll find in BOP's belt drive ...

... especially considering they don't make it any more Tom ... lol ... and yes, it's bigger than just 1.000 wide, and yes, it has more load capacity, and is rated for "Extreme" high rpm usage Tom ...

... what else do you need to know ?? ...

Not in any way saying you did copy, but if only for personal use I think nothing could be done anyway. Bringing it to market is a different deal.

Good luck and I hope it works out well

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Not in any way saying you did copy, but if only for personal use I think nothing could be done anyway. Bringing it to market is a different deal.

Good luck and I hope it works out well

... no Mike, you're wrong, we could sell them if we wanted to, as this is nothing like the BOP system at all, it uses a wider belt of higher load and rpm capacity, and completely different pulleys and hub ...

... it's nothing like the BOP system, get it ?? ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... no Mike, you're wrong, we could sell them if we wanted to, as this is nothing like the BOP system at all, it uses a wider belt of higher load and rpm capacity, and completely different pulleys and hub ...

... it's nothing like the BOP system, get it ?? ...

I guess...you missed the point there pal but whatever

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

I guess...you missed the point there pal but whatever

... who's point ? ... you quoted Tom's post and then said personal use, but then referenced 'bringing it to market" would be a different deal ?? ...

... what exactly was the point then ? ...

[mike leech]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... who's point ? ... you quoted Tom's post and then said personal use, but then referenced 'bringing it to market" would be a different deal ?? ...

... what exactly was the point then ? ...

Uh, I meant to quote your post hence the confusion.

That there would be copyright infringement for personal use....If brought to market you guys would know not to copy...thaz all

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by mike leech

Uh, I meant to quote your post hence the confusion.

That there would be copyright infringement for personal use....If brought to market you guys would know not to copy...thaz all

... oh, ok ... well we didn't copy ... but, im taking your advise, im tired now, im going to sleep, enjoy your trip Mike ...

... let me know if you find "Charlie" ... (Forest Gump reference)