[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Seems that the head had this reputation because of a few cyl head guys opinions. Hmmm , where the wrong ?

You know what they say ......" The proof is in the pudding"

With that said, how has the pudding tasted for the last 7 years of effort ?

Originally Posted by Daniel Barton

It would seem reasonable that having only 1 customer(Robin Roberts) that comes to mind actually laying down good numbers out of the first 50 sets of heads could have a negative effect on future sales too, I realize it is much easier on Jims ego to blame everybody else but I do believe that there are more factors than just people talking about it badly. Even at this point, if they started putting up good numbers people would look to get them.

... ok, so what your saying is simply because it hasn't yet, means that it can't ?? ...

... is this what you guys are claiming ?? ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, so what your saying is simply because it hasn't yet, means that it can't ?? ...

... is this what you guys are claiming ?? ...

I guess you all can keep sayn...." It's about to get good".

LOL

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

I guess you all can keep sayn...." It's about to get good".

LOL

... and that's anywhere near as bad as the things you say ?? ...

[Daniel Barton]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, so what your saying is simply because it hasn't yet, means that it can't ?? ...

... is this what you guys are claiming ?? ...

Que? what are you asking me?

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Daniel Barton

Que? what are you asking me?

... do you think, that just because the CV-1 has not made over 1000hp yet, that means that it can't ?? ...

[Daniel Barton]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... do you think, that just because the CV-1 has not made over 1000hp yet, that means that it can't ?? ...

could you direct me to the post where I said that?

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Daniel Barton

could you direct me to the post where I said that?

... Dan, im asking if thats what you think ?? for the third time ...

[Daniel Barton]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... Dan, im asking if thats what you think ?? for the third time ...

Actually.... it would be for the second time, you asked if that is what I am claiming. I NEVER said that. Do I think a 572 could make 1000? Good Lord I would certainly hope so! My post had nothing what so ever to do with any of this, not really sure why you think it does.

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by Daniel Barton

Actually.... it would be for the second time, you asked if that is what I am claiming. I NEVER said that. Do I think a 572 could make 1000? Good Lord I would certainly hope so! My post had nothing what so ever to do with any of this, not really sure why you think it does.

... Dan, i was asking for your opinion to that question ...

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... do you think, that just because the CV-1 has not made over 1000hp yet, that means that it can't ?? ...

Maybe....

[twinturrbo406]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Maybe....

... c'mon Jack, after ALL the chit you talk about the heads, i get a "Maybe" from you on that question ?? ... LMAO ...

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by twinturrbo406

... ok, so what your saying is simply because it hasn't yet, means that it can't ?? ...

... is this what you guys are claiming ?? ...

Cant what? You have asked me a direct question about nothing.

1000 / who cares? old hat
1100 / not a big deal, been done a few times
1200 / been done once, and is the new target for many.


So again , cant what? How high is the bar set for your personal hurdle ?

[Daniel Barton]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Cant what? You have asked me a direct question about nothing.

1000 / who cares? old hat
1100 / not a big deal, been done a few times
1200 / been done once, and is the new target for many.


So again , cant what? How high is the bar set for your personal hurdle ?

How much more clear and concise does it need to be? LMAO At least I'm not the only one who had no idea what he was talking about... whatever you do John, don't make him have to ask you the same question 3 times!

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by Daniel Barton

How much more clear and concise does it need to be? LMAO At least I'm not the only one who had no idea what he was talking about... whatever you do John, don't make him have to ask you the same question 3 times!

Seems he has a point to prove. I just don't know what it is cuz any point that can be PROVEN at this point in time....ain't good.

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Cant what? You have asked me a direct question about nothing.

1000 / who cares? old hat
1100 / not a big deal, been done a few times
1200 / been done once, and is the new target for many.


So again , cant what? How high is the bar set for your personal hurdle ?

While those are benchmark numbers I think its more important to look at HP per cid to see a heads potential -- 1100 out of 500 ci is way more impressive than 1200 out of 600 plus ci if you do the math. So -- if a cv head makes 1000 on a 572 is it as good as a e-head on say a 540 that makes 1000 ??? close but no,

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by cgeise

While those are benchmark numbers I think its more important to look at HP per cid to see a heads potential -- 1100 out of 500 ci is way more impressive than 1200 out of 600 plus ci if you do the math. So -- if a cv head makes 1000 on a 572 is it as good as a e-head on say a 540 that makes 1000 ??? close but no,

lol.....and so says someone that has never made any power N/A with a pontiac....you are starting to sound like Stan.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

lol.....and so says someone that has never made any power N/A with a pontiac....you are starting to sound like Stan.

J.C.
Different people run different classes which have very different rules. If you run a class with minimum weight and not max. ci you you build to produce the max. HP however you can. Other people run a class which is based on pounds per ci. The above engine would have its a** handed to it in these classes. Different strokes for different .....

Stan

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

J.C.
Different people run different classes which have very different rules. If you run a class with minimum weight and not max. ci you you build to produce the max. HP however you can. Other people run a class which is based on pounds per ci. The above engine would have its a** handed to it in these classes. Different strokes for different .....

Stan

ok, Stan, u the calc king. Keep on calculating.

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

lol.....and so says someone that has never made any power N/A with a pontiac....you are starting to sound like Stan.

HMMM lets see over a 1000hp with a 540 In a BRACKET CONFIGURED ENGINE - it runs in Super Gas -- and has to go round after round -so lets see - your 1.97 hp per ci to my 1.87 hp per ci --- your 30,000 dollars in a top end to my mmm maybe 10k --- take away your extra 60 cid and your upper 1070 to 80 or so - not bad -- but not the end all --- now compare dollars to hp - and well you get it - Unless you need me to simplify it some more.

[GTOGEORGE]

Curt,
It's the round after round after round thing
that's confusing some racers. They Just don't understand, it's a new concept to them! LOL!


GTO George