[LiL Jack]

Nice 1009 HP @ 7,000 RPM!

Probably easy on valve train with that low rpm.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by LiL Jack

Nice 1009 HP @ 7,000 RPM!

Probably easy on valve train with that low rpm.

You know what they say about low rpm motors getting smoked by higher rpm units at the same hp. Probably getting handed a 15-20 mph blow by on the big end in super gas at that hp and rpm. 300 rpm dyno?

no all out ets, mph and what aero package? Come on Curt don't be bashful.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

You know what they say about low rpm motors getting smoked by higher rpm units at the same hp. Probably getting handed a 15-20 mph blow by on the big end in super gas at that hp and rpm. 300 rpm dyno?

no all out ets, mph and what aero package? Come on Curt don't be bashful.

And how many passes did you make last year?

[XSIVPWR]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

You know what they say about low rpm motors getting smoked by higher rpm units at the same hp. Probably getting handed a 15-20 mph blow by on the big end in super gas at that hp and rpm. 300 rpm dyno?

no all out ets, mph and what aero package? Come on Curt don't be bashful.

99% of the S/G cars out here are Chevy's, BIG CI, 565 to well over 632's 7500+rpm

And I can tell you Curt's car runs right with them MPH with the exception of 2or3

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

You know what they say about low rpm motors getting smoked by higher rpm units at the same hp. Probably getting handed a 15-20 mph blow by on the big end in super gas at that hp and rpm. 300 rpm dyno?

no all out ets, mph and what aero package? Come on Curt don't be bashful.

SURE - I got nothing to hide - car is a Worthy based Super gas Roadster it will currently run 168 to 170 mph at 9.90 seconds - look it up, very few of the BBC do that at more cid. I have never run the car all out as it is set up for a quick pro tree and then on the throttle stop, I know for a fact it wants to flip over backward on a sustained hard launch, it is what it is and not worth changing the whole set up for bragging rights. Other SUPER Gas cars that run similar to mine in mph will run 7.75 to 7.85 all out for reference. The body is a 2002 Firebird based Roadster so is it extra "aero" -- don't think so. So lets ask what car your putting your engine in and how you did last year ??????????? If you weren't so damn insecure about your "deal" you might be able to have an intelligent conversation to exchange ideas, but it does seem every time you start talking there seems to be a number of people that refute your ideas- not all but most.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by cgeise

SURE - I got nothing to hide - car is a Worthy based Super gas Roadster it will currently run 168 to 170 mph at 9.90 seconds - look it up, very few of the BBC do that at more cid. I have never run the car all out as it is set up for a quick pro tree and then on the throttle stop, I know for a fact it wants to flip over backward on a sustained hard launch, it is what it is and not worth changing the whole set up for bragging rights. Other SUPER Gas cars that run similar to mine in mph will run 7.75 to 7.85 all out for reference. The body is a 2002 Firebird based Roadster so is it extra "aero" -- don't think so. So lets ask what car your putting your engine in and how you did last year ??????????? If you weren't so damn insecure about your "deal" you might be able to have an intelligent conversation to exchange ideas, but it does seem every time you start talking there seems to be a number of people that refute your ideas- not all but most.

First of all it, has nothing to do with being insecure, hp per cube, exchanging ideas or debating points over what impresses you the most. I could care less what impresses you, etc. You are still ticked that I handed you your azz in the v thread pure and simple. I will commend you tho, you have seemed to mellow some.

After selling the circle track modified we ran for a season and a half, I am also involved in two cars, both 68 birds, both legal 275 cars, one a nitrous 541 MR1 with HPs. At legal weight, it went 5.2s two seasons ago with a best of a 1.19 60' on 275s. Very competitive for that time. Did not run it last year. The other 68 will have the BES 609 motor. After the upcoming dyno session barring any unforeseen glitches we will campaign it some this year and will be hunting ehead/nitrous combos.
My 66 abody streeter was competitive for several years when local heads up 10" tire classes were popular and could still run with most here with SC heads. Plan is bringing it back out with a semi hemi head poncho motor.


The roadster motor looks to make decent power, (sounds like eheads) but not impressed as there have been others that came before you having done the r&d and spending the initial bigger $$$$ so you could basicly order a crate motor. Am I far off base? I suspect you had little to do with the build other than maybe tell the builder what fuel you wanted to run, carb or injection setup.

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

First of all it, has nothing to do with being insecure, hp per cube, exchanging ideas or debating points over what impresses you the most. I could care less what impresses you, etc. You are still ticked that I handed you your azz in the v thread pure and simple. I will commend you tho, you have seemed to mellow some.

After selling the circle track modified we ran for a season and a half, I am also involved in two cars, both 68 birds, both legal 275 cars, one a nitrous 541 MR1 with HPs. At legal weight, it went 5.2s two seasons ago with a best of a 1.19 60' on 275s. Very competitive for that time. Did not run it last year. The other 68 will have the BES 609 motor. After the upcoming dyno session barring any unforeseen glitches we will campaign it some this year and will be hunting ehead/nitrous combos.
My 66 abody streeter was competitive for several years when local heads up 10" tire classes were popular and could still run with most here with SC heads. Plan is bringing it back out with a semi hemi head poncho motor.


The roadster motor looks to make decent power, (sounds like eheads) but not impressed as there have been others that came before you having done the r&d and spending the initial bigger $$$$ so you could basicly order a crate motor. Am I far off base? I suspect you had little to do with the build other than maybe tell the builder what fuel you wanted to run, carb or injection setup.

It is kinda surprising how you feel "you handed me my ass" on the V thread -- when your the one that had to eat his words when your own head manufacturer chopped you off at the knees by agreeing with My comments - Its also very surprising that you seem to know all about me and what I do - yet know jack **** - I have been building Pontiac engines for almost 45 years, I build my own trans and rear ends and weld chassis -- for you to try and challenge what I can and can not do is pure BULL**** - as I suspect your the nut hugger on the V project, spending others money - using others to design and build ect ect -- Did I get some help and advice on the last build - sure -was I deeply involved with the process, absolutely 100%, aside from the actual flow bench work on the heads could I have done every part of the build -- Bet on it --

[GTOGEORGE]

Slowbird,
Come on give me some credit this ain't about me. I could care less about what some one thinks about me. With that being said if you have been paying attention there have been threads started (in the last couple years) about other racers (that don't do the heads racing) and to not much of my surprise no kudos .......and I mean nothing were given to them about there accomplishment (damn I hope I spelled that right), maybe just a slip of the key board just kind of sad. I might be generalizing to much but life doesn't start and stop with the heads up deal. Now don't get me wrong I love the heads up thing wish there was a class I could run.......maybe in a different life. us Pontiac racers are a small group and anytime we can whoop up on another brand we should be given credit! No matter what type of racing we do! If I'm wrong I apologize, it wouldn't be the first time.


GTO George

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Slowbird,
Come on give me some credit this ain't about me. I could care less about what some one thinks about me. With that being said if you have been paying attention there have been threads started (in the last couple years) about other racers (that don't do the heads racing) and to not much of my surprise no kudos .......and I mean nothing were given to them about there accomplishment (damn I hope I spelled that right), maybe just a slip of the key board just kind of sad. I might be generalizing to much but life doesn't start and stop with the heads up deal. Now don't get me wrong I love the heads up thing wish there was a class I could run.......maybe in a different life. us Pontiac racers are a small group and anytime we can whoop up on another brand we should be given credit! No matter what type of racing we do! If I'm wrong I apologize, it wouldn't be the first time.


GTO George

Didn't see those threads I guess. I remember when Probird was winning almost every week (seemed like that anyway) that people were congratulating him. Anyone who wins should get a congrats imo.

[J.C.you]

Originally Posted by cgeise

-was I deeply involved with the process, absolutely 100%, aside from the actual flow bench work on the heads could I have done every part of the build -- Bet on it --

not worth quoting the other bs. Another words you let someone else do the "brains" or power making capabilities of the build. Gotcha.

[cgeise]

Originally Posted by J.C.you

not worth quoting the other bs. Another words you let someone else do the "brains" or power making capabilities of the build. Gotcha.

Wow - talk about Pot calling out Kettle