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Old 03-26-2014, 09:29 PM
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Yes, it is the wrong material. It should be the material with the little, double perforations.

OK, so does anyone have a recommendation on who makes the best replacement headliner? I have most of the interior out of the Black Car and it might be the appropriate time to get a correct replacement.

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:03 PM
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Legendary or SMS Auto Fabrics.

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:11 PM
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I would say Legendary as they offer more products and services..Legendary seat covers & door panels were dead on...SMS does not offer door panels...on the other hand its a headliner (perforated)..but I would still choose Legendary, BOB,you should still have the original perforated sunvisors..and my spare arrived today..thankyou!!...and the perforated looks much better than standard as you have deluxe interior

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Old 03-26-2014, 10:43 PM
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Well I am pretty psyched tonight. I scored a set of NOS bumper guards (sorry if the under bidder is reading this) and they arrived today. The good news is that they are NOS and the rubber is perfect. The bad news is that the past 42 years has not been kind to the chrome and they will need a trip to the chrome shop. The guards on the Black Car have great chrome, but really bad rubber, so there might be a switch in the future. There is a really good rubber shop in the area and I am fairly certain they will be able to produce or procure for me rubber strips that closely replicate the originals. If so, I will have an extra set of guards for the shelves or for barter. We'll see. If they are able to closely recreate the rubber strips I will get extras and let everyone know. If someone already has a source, please speak up.

While I am at it, I want to replace the bumper. I am looking for a good bumper core that can be rechromed. If anyone has or can provide the source for a solid bumper core I would be really appreciative. Here's some shots of the guards. Please let me know if you have a source for the rubber strips or a good core bumper. Thanks.







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bumper guards give the car a look I like...question for you BOB, and we may need NJSTEVES input..I was checking your car out on his old thread and I believe he posted photos of the black cars rear package tray..the thing was it was the standard tray, yet you have deluxe interior which should get the mesh tray I believe...any thoughts?..does the black car have a rear speaker?...your tray looked GM..and if for any reason you were to change the tray, LEGENDARY makes the best, it is also $79..I got one and need to post a pix, it is nice, matches the headliner(joking!)...actually I am interested in what NJSTEVE thinks regarding the package tray..thanks!..especially since I know your doing interior work

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The original black car thread has the photos of the original rear package tray. It was a non-stereo AM/FM, dual speaker car: one speaker in the front and one in the rear. In case you can't find it, here are the photos. There were some scrapes in the tray so I replaced it with a reproduction tray that was exactly the same (other than having to recut the holes to match the original ones). Neither the tray itself nor the grill or speaker underneath it, had ever been out of the car before. It had some really interesting details, such as the "Siamese Twin" cut outs for the speaker and the foam insulation.

BTW, when you get a new rear bumper remember to install the guards in the correct spot. They are currently in the wrong spot on the black car. They were installed that way when I got it. When I went to move them to the spot where they should be - over the cap bolt holes, I found that there were really big divots in the chrome that looked terrible once the guards were relocated. So I just reinstalled them where they were.
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bumper guards give the car a look I like...
I whole heartedly agree, which is why mine will be on my Forumla when done...

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question for you BOB, and we may need NJSTEVES input..I was checking your car out on his old thread and I believe he posted photos of the black cars rear package tray..the thing was it was the standard tray, yet you have deluxe interior which should get the mesh tray I believe...any thoughts?..does the black car have a rear speaker?...
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the mesh package tray a 1970/1971 part?

I know for a fact that by 1973 the 'standard tray was use, c/w the metal speaker cover - and it remained that way for the rest of the second generation run...

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Old 03-27-2014, 03:36 PM
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so safe to say 1972 & up standard & deluxe got a plain cardboard tray?...that 1970 & 71 rear mesh trays were a deluxe interior only and discontinued in 1972?..if this is so, I need to return a mesh tray..

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