[johnta1]

NOBODY that I know uses a delay box in heads up racing, go back to Internet racing!

Sounds like you do too much 'internet' racing?

Need to get out more and run with the big boys.

I know how to cut a light and so do thousands of other racers.
If you're so locked into your way of thinking, that's your problem.

[johnta1]

I have to ask, do you know how a pro tree works?

Yep, sure do.

Do you know how to fix that?

Does a delay box make you go back in time so you can release the button before the tree activates?

Sorry for you guys.

[Elarson]

Ok, all of this back & forth on pro trees and delay boxes has me confused. I race pro tree all the time. I honestly don't see how a delay box would be used in that format. Where in the sequence of:

pre-stage
stage
all 3 yellow's simultaneously
.400 later it's green

....do you trigger the button?

When I see 3 yellows, I'm leaving....no time to invoke a delay.

You can't trigger off the stage light.....the 3 yellows aren't a consistent time after that.

I don't want an argument, I want an education.

Eric

[cosgrove]

Originally Posted by Elarson

Ok, all of this back & forth on pro trees and delay boxes has me confused. I race pro tree all the time. I honestly don't see how a delay box would be used in that format. Where in the sequence of:

pre-stage
stage
all 3 yellow's simultaneously
.400 later it's green

....do you trigger the button?

When I see 3 yellows, I'm leaving....no time to invoke a delay.

You can't trigger off the stage light.....the 3 yellows aren't a consistent time after that.

I don't want an argument, I want an education.

Eric

You have nothing confused Eric. The only way a delay box will help you on a .400 pro tree is if you and your car are quick enough in the beams to red light- like S/st.
If you need to be quicker, a delay box will not help you.
Oh, unless you have one of those time traveling delay boxes like John has. That was sarcasm John. You seem to be lost in all of this.

[ventura7211]

Originally Posted by Elarson

Ok, all of this back & forth on pro trees and delay boxes has me confused. I race pro tree all the time. I honestly don't see how a delay box would be used in that format. Where in the sequence of:

pre-stage
stage
all 3 yellow's simultaneously
.400 later it's green

....do you trigger the button?

When I see 3 yellows, I'm leaving....no time to invoke a delay.

You can't trigger off the stage light.....the 3 yellows aren't a consistent time after that.

I don't want an argument, I want an education.

Eric

Its because apples are being compared to oranges.

A light weight over tired under powered car is being compared to a heavier over powered under tired car.

You can cut good lights, but the car has to be set up to reflect the driver's reaction, its easier to do so when the car is going to stick no matter what do to an over tired under powered situation than a under tired over power situation where power management strategies comes into play.

If you are curious about your reaction versus the cars reaction, you could always log the tb button event and compare it to the start of the driveshaft sensor event, log the charge pressure as well and you can determine if its the tune up, driver, or trans/converter causing subpar reaction times.

Similar reason why fuel car drivers consider .060-080 ish lights to be "good", the are reacting far earlier than the car due to the power management settings for the first few hundred feet.

[LiL Jack]

Originally Posted by johnta1

Sounds like you do too much 'internet' racing?

Need to get out more and run with the big boys.

I know how to cut a light and so do thousands of other racers.
If you're so locked into your way of thinking, that's your problem.

That's funny, I had four of the baddest heads up racers in there class helping me Wednesday at the track while you were being a keyboard commando.

[johnta1]

And what were your lights?