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Old 03-02-2016, 01:48 PM
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Stan you guys simply cannot just claim physics to back up your claims. It's not physics when there's no proof that it works. Or that it won't work. Hypothesis at best. You guys claimed over and over again coatings make more power and it's just physics. Bull crap. That's what you guys claim every time you can't prove what you think. No offense to you Stan.

And yes I will share the minimal cross-sectional area. Let me figure what it is currently
Mike,
Glad to see you missed me.

Still quick with the keyboard diarrhea but slow with the Math. No wonder you do not like physics.

Still looking for where I stored your dyno sheet. Is this it?

Engine_Size_=__566.534_ci

Dyno_Barometric_Pressure_=_28.61_-_Dyno_Vapor_Pressure_=_0.3064_-_Dyno_Air_Temperature_=_70.0

_________________________________Fuel___________Un Corr__UnCorr_UnCorr_Correct___A/F
__RPM___Horse__Torque___BMEP____lb/hr_____BSFC______HP__Torque___BMEP__Factor__Ratio_ ___SCFM____VE%
_7800__1130.7___761.4__202.7___384.77____.3760__10 23.3___689.0__183.4__1.1050__12.50__1050.1___88.5
_7900__1138.2___756.7__201.4___394.96____.3830__10 31.2___685.6__182.5__1.1037__12.50__1077.9___89.7
_8000__1145.9___752.3__200.2___400.01____.3860__10 36.3___680.3__181.1__1.1058__12.50__1091.7___89.7
_8100__1151.8___746.8__198.8___406.54____.3900__10 42.4___675.9__179.9__1.1049__12.50__1109.6___90.0
_8200__1155.5___740.1__197.0___409.33____.3920__10 44.2___668.8__178.0__1.1066__12.50__1117.2___89.5
_8300__1157.3___732.3__194.9___413.59____.3960__10 44.4___660.9__175.9__1.1081__12.50__1128.8___89.4
_8400__1160.0___725.3__193.1___420.73____.4020__10 46.6___654.4__174.2__1.1083__12.50__1148.3___89.8
_8500__1156.6___714.7__190.2___424.48____.4070__10 42.9___644.4__171.5__1.1090__12.50__1158.5___89.6
_8600__1151.9___703.5__187.2___423.38____.4090__10 35.2___632.2__168.3__1.1128__12.50__1155.5___88.3
_8700__1143.3___690.2__183.7___418.73____.4080__10 26.3___619.6__164.9__1.1140__12.50__1142.8___86.3
AVG:
_8250__1149.1___732.3__194.9___409.65____.3949__10 37.3___661.1__176.0__________12.50__1118.1___89.1
MIN:
_7800__1130.7___690.2__183.7___384.77____.3760__10 23.3___619.6__164.9__________12.50__1050.1___86.3
MAX:
_8700__1160.0___761.4__202.7___424.48____.4090__10 46.6___689.0__183.4__________12.50__1158.5___90.0

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Old 03-02-2016, 03:24 PM
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Mike,
Glad to see you missed me.

Still quick with the keyboard diarrhea but slow with the Math. No wonder you do not like physics.

Still looking for where I stored your dyno sheet. Is this it?

Engine_Size_=__566.534_ci

Dyno_Barometric_Pressure_=_28.61_-_Dyno_Vapor_Pressure_=_0.3064_-_Dyno_Air_Temperature_=_70.0

_________________________________Fuel___________Un Corr__UnCorr_UnCorr_Correct___A/F
__RPM___Horse__Torque___BMEP____lb/hr_____BSFC______HP__Torque___BMEP__Factor__Ratio_ ___SCFM____VE%
_7800__1130.7___761.4__202.7___384.77____.3760__10 23.3___689.0__183.4__1.1050__12.50__1050.1___88.5
_7900__1138.2___756.7__201.4___394.96____.3830__10 31.2___685.6__182.5__1.1037__12.50__1077.9___89.7
_8000__1145.9___752.3__200.2___400.01____.3860__10 36.3___680.3__181.1__1.1058__12.50__1091.7___89.7
_8100__1151.8___746.8__198.8___406.54____.3900__10 42.4___675.9__179.9__1.1049__12.50__1109.6___90.0
_8200__1155.5___740.1__197.0___409.33____.3920__10 44.2___668.8__178.0__1.1066__12.50__1117.2___89.5
_8300__1157.3___732.3__194.9___413.59____.3960__10 44.4___660.9__175.9__1.1081__12.50__1128.8___89.4
_8400__1160.0___725.3__193.1___420.73____.4020__10 46.6___654.4__174.2__1.1083__12.50__1148.3___89.8
_8500__1156.6___714.7__190.2___424.48____.4070__10 42.9___644.4__171.5__1.1090__12.50__1158.5___89.6
_8600__1151.9___703.5__187.2___423.38____.4090__10 35.2___632.2__168.3__1.1128__12.50__1155.5___88.3
_8700__1143.3___690.2__183.7___418.73____.4080__10 26.3___619.6__164.9__1.1140__12.50__1142.8___86.3
AVG:
_8250__1149.1___732.3__194.9___409.65____.3949__10 37.3___661.1__176.0__________12.50__1118.1___89.1
MIN:
_7800__1130.7___690.2__183.7___384.77____.3760__10 23.3___619.6__164.9__________12.50__1050.1___86.3
MAX:
_8700__1160.0___761.4__202.7___424.48____.4090__10 46.6___689.0__183.4__________12.50__1158.5___90.0

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Have a Good Day!

Stan
No that is not it cubic inches wrong. I'm pretty sure the rest of it is too

So fool. Tell me all about those coatings and I'll much horsepower they're worth again. So it should be really easy for you to explain to all of us dummies

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Old 03-02-2016, 03:51 PM
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No that is not it cubic inches wrong. I'm pretty sure the rest of it is too

So fool. Tell me all about those coatings and I'll much horsepower they're worth again. So it should be really easy for you to explain to all of us dummies
Mike,
Maybe I should have addressed that questions to John, he seems to know more about your dyno sheets than you do.

I would not have placed you in that group, but now that you have placed yourself there who am I to argue with you.

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Old 03-02-2016, 04:19 PM
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Mike,
Maybe I should have addressed that questions to John, he seems to know more about your dyno sheets than you do.

I would not have placed you in that group, but now that you have placed yourself there who am I to argue with you.

Stan
Lol. Listen up phuctard. You go trolling around the internet coping and pasting all kinds of crap and you think that makes you a genius. You are anything but. You think you have mastered physics yet have accomplished NOTHING but a bromance with another calculator queer. You have never faced the fact that your ideas are only that. The truth is you are obssesed with being precieved as a genius because your intellect is not up to your own standards. FACT

John may well know more about my sheets than i think he does. But he does not care about anything I do and therefore puts almost no thought in it outside the displays about him not caring.

I'm sure you both think we just keep making more power because we are lucky and have no clue at all how or what to do and just make some knee jerk choice and get lucky over and over.....right? Because johns engine builder skewed my Dyno results to try and make me look better? Or him worse? Really???? You guys think uncle tony would do that???? Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard out of.

Yea we are just knuckle draggers that get lucky. Never thought of physics. Hell we can't even pronounce it. Besides we hated gym class.....Right

We made 1067, 1137,1172, and more than that by about the same improvement. And will improve again. All luck and stretching dynos though.

RIGHT?????

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Old 03-02-2016, 04:29 PM
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Lol. Listen up phuctard. You go trolling around the internet coping and pasting all kinds of crap and you think that makes you a genius. You are anything but. You think you have mastered physics yet have accomplished NOTHING but a bromance with another calculator queer. You have never faced the fact that your ideas are only that. The truth is you are obssesed with being precieved as a genius because your intellect is not up to your own standards. FACT

John may well know more about my sheets than i think he does. But he does not care about anything I do and therefore puts almost no thought in it outside the displays about him not caring.

I'm sure you both think we just keep making more power because we are lucky and have no clue at all how or what to do and just make some knee jerk choice and get lucky over and over.....right? Because johns engine builder skewed my Dyno results to try and make me look better? Or him worse? Really???? You guys think uncle tony would do that???? Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard out of.

Yea we are just knuckle draggers that get lucky. Never thought of physics. Hell we can't even pronounce it. Besides we hated gym class.....Right

We made 1067, 1137,1172, and more than that by about the same improvement. And will improve again. All luck and stretching dynos though.

RIGHT?????
Mike,
I know this is getting to you. But just calm down. I sure do not want to be the reason that you have a stroke or heart attach.

Have a great day!

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I know this is getting to you. But just calm down. I sure do not want to be the reason that you have a stroke or heart attach.

Have a great day!

Stan
Don't worry Stan. Your opinions not matter to me enough to cause any real discomfort. Although you do make my head hurt a little bit sometimes.


So I'm curious did you finally give up on your engine coating theory? Have you called someone that maybe works at a NASCAR team or pro stock team that isn't using it?

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Old 03-02-2016, 05:20 PM
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I wouldnt guess those dyno results are from a Pontiac. Makes no torque. Wouldn't pull down the track. Maybe a bbc? From the correction factor, it must have either been pulled in Denver in the middle of summer or the operator got happy and turned the knob. Let's get back to what it would take to make 2.3@565".

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