[NYGTO]

Not yet please, I'm still thinking. Worse than picking a favorite child. I've had both year's!

[300deluxe]

Originally Posted by NYGTO

Not yet please, I'm still thinking. Worse than picking a favorite child. I've had both year's!

I love em both, but slight edge to the 68 because of front valance, wing windows, ignition on dash, large rear bumper....plus I was born in 68.

[U47]

I ordered my 69 H-O Lemans in Nov. 68.
What I liked on the 69. The LeMans script moved to the front fender. The rear bumper in relation to the tail lamp. The dash, Pontiac's version of the Hurst shifter. A T-400 availability for the 355 H-O

What I liked about the 68. A smaller snout in the center portion of the front bumper, In 69 the snout turned into a battering ram and was so big the license plate and bracket had to be re-located to the rt side of the valance.
Vent wings, a useful way to get air into the car and my thought on the 69 was PMD was cutting content out of the car while making the car more expensive. Remember when GM made such a big deal over their "new" vent wings and all the advantages!
Bumpers on 68-69 GTO's, just my thoughts at the time was PMD cutting cost by reducing bling- a plastic bumper looked to me cheap ( these days I know the endure cost more ) ( back then all we knew was endura weighed more, we also knew that every 100 pounds was a tenth of a second and a tenth of a second was a car length at the end of the quarter mile )

Bumper thoughts of 68 and 68. I always thought cars looked cheap when they had a bumper and a valance under it. It was like it cost too much to have a full bumper. Look at a 59 Pontiac's front and rear bumpers compared to a 59 Chevy with those cheap valances under them. The disadvantage of the low valance? Paint chips and early rust out.

[300deluxe]

Originally Posted by U47

I ordered my 69 H-O Lemans in Nov. 68.
What I liked on the 69. The LeMans script moved to the front fender. The rear bumper in relation to the tail lamp. The dash, Pontiac's version of the Hurst shifter. A T-400 availability for the 355 H-O

What I liked about the 68. A smaller snout in the center portion of the front bumper, In 69 the snout turned into a battering ram and was so big the license plate and bracket had to be re-located to the rt side of the valance.
Vent wings, a useful way to get air into the car and my thought on the 69 was PMD was cutting content out of the car while making the car more expensive. Remember when GM made such a big deal over their "new" vent wings and all the advantages!
Bumpers on 68-69 GTO's, just my thoughts at the time was PMD cutting cost by reducing bling- a plastic bumper looked to me cheap ( these days I know the endure cost more ) ( back then all we knew was endura weighed more, we also knew that every 100 pounds was a tenth of a second and a tenth of a second was a car length at the end of the quarter mile )

Bumper thoughts of 68 and 68. I always thought cars looked cheap when they had a bumper and a valance under it. It was like it cost too much to have a full bumper. Look at a 59 Pontiac's front and rear bumpers compared to a 59 Chevy with those cheap valances under them. The disadvantage of the low valance? Paint chips and early rust out.

The 1968 Lemans/Tempest front end definitely looks better than the 1969 model...the 69 was a little large on the nose.

[north]

Actually the endura bumper wasn't heavier. Or I should say the assembly wasn't heavier. When you compare the full bumper assembly with headlights and all the brackets the chrome and the endura both weigh the same

[John Eiseman]

Originally Posted by north

Actually the Endura bumper wasn't heavier. Or I should say the assembly wasn't heavier. When you compare the full bumper assembly with headlights and all the brackets the chrome and the endura both weigh the same

Really? Is this yet another folklore that can be put to rest? It seems like most people , through the years has said that the Endura bumper is much heavier....
North, have you weighed the 2 separatly to find this out. Not doubting you, I'm curious more now.