[Jeff Kinsler]

I think we need another EHTTFMF.


Carry on.


Question? Did dicks e- headed engine have a dry sump on it?

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I think we need another EHTTFMF.


Carry on.


Question? Did dicks e- headed engine have a dry sump on it?

I didn't when I saw it.


EHTTFMF!!!

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

I didn't when I saw it.


EHTTFMF!!!

So there's 25 to 30 hp that the e heads didn't have on it. So the 7.7s could have been 7.6s?

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

So there's 25 to 30 hp that the e heads didn't have on it. So the 7.7s could have been 7.6s?

Now you are trying to confuse the issue with facts.

There is also a pair of high tech carburetors on the car now. I tried discussing this before but was quickly accused of being a CV'ie hater....when all I was trying to do it get the facts.

EHTTFMF!

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by PAUL K

Now you are trying to confuse the issue with facts.

There is also a pair of high tech carburetors on the car now. I tried discussing this before but was quickly accused of being a CV'ie hater....when all I was trying to do it get the facts.

EHTTFMF!

Can't even compare two 2 builds.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

Can't even compare two 2 builds.

... well, Fulton's car is obviously making more power, the MPH proves that, yes we've had our fair share of issues for sure, but ultimately you guys want to disect any piece of the build you choose and take away what the CV-1 engine is doing, and try to insinuate now the only reason it's faster is because of the carbs and drysump ?? ...

... you guys don't know anything about those carbs, we ran my spread dominator on this engine the last time it was dyno'd, it made 6 less hp and 8 more ft lbs ...

... now the real issue here is not even that, as if this nonsense isn't bad enough, there is and has been a lop-sided bias from you 'Haters' concerning CV-1's regardless of the topic, and everyone knows who you are, because most if not all of the same hater names are in just about every CV-1 thread there is, Fulton's car IS faster, and it certainly has not matched the MPH to our best ET, YET ...

... but you guys still wanna pick it apart and discredit the whole thing because of some parts, and Fulton is faster ??? ... has a single one of you jumped on Jack and his new combo ??? because he is slower and and recieved nothing like what Fulton's results have, not even close ... and he went slower ?? ... but you guys will say i'm wrong, that there is no bias here like always ...

... Jeff, you said you felt we'd go 7.40's or so before, and the car is showing that you might have been correct, i don't disagree with you there, but it's been posted by Marcella that new combo's are a pain to get dialed in, and that reference was to Langer's N/A engine, there's a little more to a 2 stage N20 combo wouldn't you say ??? ...

... if you guys are so fair, so unbias, then why haven't we been given that kind of quarter or understanding ??? ... heck, Jack was on the track i think a full season before we were wasn't he ?? ...

... and i'm not trying to blow you up here Jeff, i'm speaking honestly ...

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... well, Fulton's car is obviously making more power, the MPH proves that,...

Just an FYI, a car can gain and loose mph without touching the engine. Recently we tested a couple of converters. One converter lost 1 mph and the other gained three.The same thing can happen with gear change, tires etc. An eighth mile car would have considerably less mph compared to a 1/4 mile car and run a slower ET.

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

So there's 25 to 30 hp that the e heads didn't have on it. So the 7.7s could have been 7.6s?

I don't know Jeff. I don't think you'd see 25 or 30 over a good wet sump and pump. Could be wrong though.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by mjm421

I don't know Jeff. I don't think you'd see 25 or 30 over a good wet sump and pump. Could be wrong though.

... the drysump was used for proper oiling at high rpm and peak accelleration, not for 30hp ...

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... the drysump was used for proper oiling at high rpm and peak accelleration, not for 30hp ...

Don't need a dry sump for that.

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by mjm421

I don't know Jeff. I don't think you'd see 25 or 30 over a good wet sump and pump. Could be wrong though.

I know how much a BBC on a proven dyno picked up. No other changes than the dry sump. One of the fasteSt BBC nos in x275

[mjm421]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I know how much a BBC on a proven dyno picked up. No other changes than the dry sump. One of the fasteSt BBC nos in x275

Different situations probably yield different results. What is the weight difference?

[john marcella]

Dry sumps made hp vs wet sumps because they make vacuum too. Now we put vacuum pumps on so not much there but better oiling after that. Some systems may be better down track do to better oil control. Imo.

[john marcella]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

I know how much a BBC on a proven dyno picked up. No other changes than the dry sump. One of the fasteSt BBC nos in x275

Bet they picked up vac !

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Bet they picked up vac !

... exactly, the most vacuum we've managed so far is between 9-11 inches ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

So there's 25 to 30 hp that the e heads didn't have on it. So the 7.7s could have been 7.6s?

... so how much Faster was Leech's car after he installed his Auto-Verdi ?? ...

[Jeff Kinsler]

Originally Posted by Anderson Port Development

... so how much Faster was Leech's car after he installed his Auto-Verdi ?? ...

Ask him

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Jeff Kinsler

Ask him

... i was kinda hoping you'd use the same crystal ball method that's being used on Fulton's components and what they are worth, only apply this to Leech's before and after ...

... wet sump vs drysump ... the crystall ball part wasn't meant to sound smart ass or anything ...

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by john marcella

Get with the program I idle at 22 with no vacuum pump.

Originally Posted by john marcella

Yer ring pack/hone needs. work

... like i said, we still got room for improvement and work to do ...