[GTOGEORGE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
DF cars weight of 3020lbs race weight came in a PM on "this site", from Mr. Fulton in 2011
dicks car is 3150 now. has to weigh that (w/ muffs) to compete in fastest street car shootout @ brainerd track in mn... which he WON in '16 first full season w/ cv-1's against fords and chevies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
Still, never has answered my question of his best CV time. Was it 7.65 ?
dicks pass early sunday morning against roger ibbotson @ norwalk '16 was a 7.62- shutting off at the 1000 and coasting due to hurt cyl. it happened about 10am- i was there


So Mr. Fulton went almost .10 quicker at 120 more weight (thats what I been saying) thats equals to like .10, so do some maths that almost .20 quicker and at that ET that adds up to a lot more HP! I also was there when he ran that 7.62............I just forgot.
So thats another "Heads Up" Racer making the SWITCH to go quicker!
As for the H & M non RA5 head............its just another head that e-headed racers will make the SWITCH too.........if they can afford it! LOL!


GTO George

[3fastgtos]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
DF cars weight of 3020lbs race weight came in a PM on "this site", from Mr. Fulton in 2011
dicks car is 3150 now. has to weigh that (w/ muffs) to compete in fastest street car shootout @ brainerd track in mn... which he WON in '16 first full season w/ cv-1's against fords and chevies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
Still, never has answered my question of his best CV time. Was it 7.65 ?
dicks pass early sunday morning against roger ibbotson @ norwalk '16 was a 7.62- shutting off at the 1000 and coasting due to hurt cyl. it happened about 10am- i was there


So Mr. Fulton went almost .10 quicker at 120 more weight (thats what I been saying) thats equals to like .10, so do some maths that almost .20 quicker and at that ET that adds up to a lot more HP! I also was there when he ran that 7.62............I just forgot.
So thats another "Heads Up" Racer making the SWITCH to go quicker!
As for the H & M non RA5 head............its just another head that e-headed racers will make the SWITCH too.........if they can afford it! LOL!


GTO George

George, what is "non RA5" about the H&M head? Is it not inline and EIEIIEIE?
SD

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

George, what is "non RA5" about the H&M head? Is it not inline and EIEIIEIE?
SD

Well it's just my opinion but a RA5 head has the pushrods going threw the port.


GTO George

[3fastgtos]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Well it's just my opinion but a RA5 head has the pushrods going threw the port.


GTO George

So because of that they're non 5's? Got it, and what makes a Warp 6 Pontiac? Other than it bolts to one.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

So because of that they're non 5's? Got it, and what makes a Warp 6 Pontiac? Other than it bolts to one.

Well thats it.........It bolts to a Pontiac block and its made for a Pontiac engine by Pontiac guys, its not my cup of tea, I do prefer the RA5 head, I'm not a CV type of guy. The H & M head when it comes out will be a kick ass head, i don't have a problem with it....its just not a RA5 head, call it something else....maybe H & M Billet


GTO George

[3fastgtos]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Well thats it.........It bolts to a Pontiac block and its made for a Pontiac engine by Pontiac guys, its not my cup of tea, I do prefer the RA5 head, I'm not a CV type of guy. The H & M head when it comes out will be a kick ass head, i don't have a problem with it....its just not a RA5 head, call it something else....maybe H & M Billet


GTO George

I guess if I get a set of Brad 8 Hemi heads to fit on a Pontiac block then they'll become Pontiac heads too.

And at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what you think they should be called. Dave calls them 5's so they are. They're his heads after all.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

I guess if I get a set of Brad 8 Hemi heads to fit on a Pontiac block then they'll become Pontiac heads too.

And at the end of the day it really doesn't matter what you think they should be called. Dave calls them 5's so they are. They're his heads after all.

It only matters to me what I think.


GTO George

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Well thats it.........It bolts to a Pontiac block and its made for a Pontiac engine by Pontiac guys, its not my cup of tea, I do prefer the RA5 head, I'm not a CV type of guy. The H & M head when it comes out will be a kick ass head, i don't have a problem with it....its just not a RA5 head, call it something else....maybe H & M Billet


GTO George

GTO George,
So we now know the real reason the you do not like "E" heads. Because Edelbrock hates Pontiacs. So do you check even part you buy to make sure that it was made by "Pontiac Guys"?

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

GTO George,
So we now know the real reason the you do not like "E" heads. Because Edelbrock hates Pontiacs. So do you check even part you buy to make sure that it was made by "Pontiac Guys"?

Stan

Oh Hell Stan I don't hate E-Heads damn it I owned a set, they are what they are and nothing more. I just think edelbrock could have done more for US Pontiac racers. If it wasn't for the first set of Aluminum D-Port heads that came out Edelbrock would have never come out with theirs, same goes with Larry Wensler heads. How long do you think it would have taken Edelbrock to come out with their aluminum head for a Pontiac if it wasn't for Larry? Thats how much they Edelbrock care about us Pontiac Racers!


GTO George

[PAUL K]

Originally Posted by 3fastgtos

So because of that they're non 5's? Got it, and what makes a Warp 6 Pontiac? Other than it bolts to one.

Because KRE manufacturers them and George has a man crush on one of the boys over there.

[3fastgtos]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Well it's just my opinion but a RA5 head has the pushrods going threw the port.


GTO George

Well let me put this another way. I have a set of 614's that have a pushrod tube protruding into the runner. Ra4's didn't come with a pushrod tube in the runner. So are these not 4's anymore? Yea they are, and the H&M heads are 5's because the valve layout is the same.

SD

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
DF cars weight of 3020lbs race weight came in a PM on "this site", from Mr. Fulton in 2011
dicks car is 3150 now. has to weigh that (w/ muffs) to compete in fastest street car shootout @ brainerd track in mn... which he WON in '16 first full season w/ cv-1's against fords and chevies

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragncar View Post
Still, never has answered my question of his best CV time. Was it 7.65 ?
dicks pass early sunday morning against roger ibbotson @ norwalk '16 was a 7.62- shutting off at the 1000 and coasting due to hurt cyl. it happened about 10am- i was there


So Mr. Fulton went almost .10 quicker at 120 more weight (thats what I been saying) thats equals to like .10, so do some maths that almost .20 quicker and at that ET that adds up to a lot more HP! I also was there when he ran that 7.62............I just forgot.
So thats another "Heads Up" Racer making the SWITCH to go quicker!
As for the H & M non RA5 head............its just another head that e-headed racers will make the SWITCH too.........if they can afford it! LOL!


GTO George

OK, its two tenths by your estimation. I can buy that. Two tenths faster than a 370 head. I believe there was all that in the 40cfm more E head. Especially if you consider the cubic inch increase that seems to have happened.
So, he put on the canted valve heads that had to have went at least 430cfm, could have been 450cfm and increased the size and stroke of the engine and went 2 tenths faster. Alrighty then.

[slowbird]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Especially if you consider the cubic inch increase that seems to have happened.

Where was this stated? I wasn't aware the ci increased when the cv-1s went on

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Where was this stated? I wasn't aware the ci increased when the cv-1s went on

He's probably talking with Gach again! LOL!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by slowbird

Where was this stated? I wasn't aware the ci increased when the cv-1s went on

I dont know that it did happen. Just remember when he was under 500ci. Seems to me if you are 4" stroke engine and going to a much larger cfm head increasing the stroke would be in order.
Its just speculation though.