[opeliac]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

I love that idea for Super Class racing!!! !!!!!!

That is the car I WANT in round 1 of every race for the next 6 YEARS!!!

Super class racing doesnt need the HP of a turbo combo to be competitive...Unless there is a new super class that i'm not familiar with...Surely you arent talking about Super Street, or Super Gas, are you?

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by opeliac

Super class racing doesnt need the HP of a turbo combo to be competitive...Unless there is a new super class that i'm not familiar with...Surely you arent talking about Super Street, or Super Gas, are you?

Sure was.......
It's kinda funny I've won $40 off of a couple threads already....Mention bigger cubic inches and someone says short deck motor.....or use turbos...
In the super classes a lot of guys are exceeding the 1100-1300hp range naturally aspirated...I mean think about the number of guys that are making that much hp nationwide in all 3 super classes for a second maybe 3000 people are running motors in that range....
Now,how many Pontiac motors are out there right now just making 1000hp NA? Heads up/bracket racing I'm curious to that answer or perception.

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

Sure was.......
It's kinda funny I've won $40 off of a couple threads already....Mention bigger cubic inches and someone says short deck motor.....or use turbos...
In the super classes a lot of guys are exceeding the 1100-1300hp range naturally aspirated...I mean think about the number of guys that are making that much hp nationwide in all 3 super classes for a second maybe 3000 people are running motors in that range....
Now,how many Pontiac motors are out there right now just making 1000hp NA? Heads up/bracket racing I'm curious to that answer or perception.

IMO, its completely stupid to run a 1100-1300HP combo in Super Street or Super gas...Build a 2400lb car, run a lower HP, lower maintenance combo...

As for your question about the number of high HP Pontiacs in these classes, I have no idea...I'd say there isnt a very high ratio though, just like there arent very many Oldsmobiles, Buicks, or AMCs...

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by opeliac

IMO, its completely stupid to run a 1100-1300HP combo in Super Street or Super gas...Build a 2400lb car, run a lower HP, lower maintenance combo...

As for your question about the number of high HP Pontiacs in these classes, I have no idea...I'd say there isnt a very high ratio though, just like there arent very many Oldsmobiles, Buicks, or AMCs...

I don't believe thare are that many High HP combos running a bracket class, even NHRA Super classes. If I remember correctly, NHRA Super Street has a minimum weight of 2800lbs, Super Gas is 2100lbs. We can't compete with 600ci engines in that class, but we can still build a reliable 540ci that should be able to get the job done with a target MPH of 150+.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

I don't believe thare are that many High HP combos running a bracket class, even NHRA Super classes. If I remember correctly, NHRA Super Street has a minimum weight of 2800lbs, Super Gas is 2100lbs. We can't compete with 600ci engines in that class, but we can still build a reliable 540ci that should be able to get the job done with a target MPH of 150+.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

150+ in Street yep I agree your advice HAS just about done that...149.88 is close enough we are among friends...

I'll go out on a limb and say with those higher hp levels it's more of a challenge to get the car to repeat than it is to build a 1000hp Pontiac.....I'm sure the guys that have done super class racing might agree with me on that.....it's a whole lot more than plugging numbers in a box...

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by 65nss4spdGTO

I don't believe thare are that many High HP combos running a bracket class, even NHRA Super classes. If I remember correctly, NHRA Super Street has a minimum weight of 2800lbs, Super Gas is 2100lbs. We can't compete with 600ci engines in that class, but we can still build a reliable 540ci that should be able to get the job done with a target MPH of 150+.

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

The bottom line is, you can compete in Super Gas, and Super Street with a N/A Pontiac using currently available parts.

[S/st 54]

Originally Posted by opeliac

The bottom line is, you can compete in Super Gas, and Super Street with a N/A Pontiac using currently available parts.

I believe you! Considering I was the last to dang near win a championship with a Pontiac in a Super class.....but just think...if a "premier head porter"in the Pontiac Community called my car "slow" going 160+ with a bbc......I can only imagine what his perception is when I was going 147ish with a Pontiac.

[65nss4spdGTO]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

I believe you! Considering I was the last to dang near win a championship with a Pontiac in a Super class.....but just think...if a "premier head porter"in the Pontiac Community called my car "slow" going 160+ with a bbc......I can only imagine what his perception is when I was going 147ish with a Pontiac.

I know you've picked up a ton since switching to the BBC, how much MPH did you gain in the back 1/2 with the Pontiac engine as compared to the current engine?

I'm guessing you picked up 29-30 MPH with the old motor?

Calvin Hill
Hill Performance
708-250-7420

[opeliac]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

I believe you! Considering I was the last to dang near win a championship with a Pontiac in a Super class.....but just think...if a "premier head porter"in the Pontiac Community called my car "slow" going 160+ with a bbc......I can only imagine what his perception is when I was going 147ish with a Pontiac.

Why did you switch to the BBC?

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by S/st 54

I believe you! Considering I was the last to dang near win a championship with a Pontiac in a Super class.....but just think...if a "premier head porter"in the Pontiac Community called my car "slow" going 160+ with a bbc......I can only imagine what his perception is when I was going 147ish with a Pontiac.

You know if you can run a 10.90 at (it doesn't matter what speed)m and you can cut a GOOD light it wont matter what your top end is, its the one that gets to the finish line first without going under....right!


GTO George