[charlie66]

Probably 10+ grand..

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by charlie66

Probably 10+ grand..

No,No,No........... in a car that weight he could do it with a number of combos. Plain jane home ported D ports could get it done. Easy. You could do it on pump gas.
Its 2800lbs man. My buddy runs mid 10s with 62s, 4" stroke crank, 750, Warrior in a second gen Formula.
With a little effort it could be done with factory block,crank, iron heads and good rods and pistons.
There were a few short blocks just sold here that were more than enough to get it done.
I am at 10.90s, pump gas, iron heads, plain TRW 455 with cheap H beams in a all steel, all glass 69 GTO. Give me 2800lbs and I bet I could cover that.
Might have to change gears, big deal. Its a race car.

[ponyakr]

You can buy the stock block, short block for around $5k, with a forged crank, and roller cam.

Can save close to $1000, by going with a flat tappet cam.

http://lenwilliamsautomachine.com/455_Short_Block.html

http://www.sandovalperformance.com/engines

https://butlerperformance.com/i-2445...tegory:1234783

The Spotts site shows an aftermarket 505 short block, for $6190. Don't know if that price is current or not. Forged crank will probably add $400.

http://www.spottsperformance.com/IA2%20engine%20block2

Most say that it costs at least $1000 to do a set of unported iron heads. Alum heads are what, at least $2500, or more.

http://www.sdperformance.com/viewPro...?productID=583

http://www.krepower.com/Pontiac%20Al...er%20Heads.htm

https://butlerperformance.com/i-3024...tegory:1287735

http://www.krepower.com/Pontiac%20Al...er%20Heads.htm

In order to build from scratch & and buy all new parts, I'd say it would be hard to build a 10.50 engine for less than $8k. But, if you have ready to run heads, intake, carb, and any other necessary parts, it would obviously reduce the cost.

[ponyakr]

The Pontiac Stockers are running mid 10's, with 400 engine, iron D-ports, iron intake, 750 Q-jet, & flat tappet .425 lift cam, at over 3400lbs.

And that's footbrakin, with 9" slicks.

Some of the 400 GT Super Stock Cars are running in the 9's, with slightly ported iron heads, a 750 Q-jet, roller cam, brake, & big tires.

So, with more cubes, ported iron or alum heads, roller cam, Northwind or Victor intake, Dominator carb, and big tires, 10.50's should be easy in a 2800lb car.

I've read here that unported KRE High Ports are about the best value out there, for a build in this hp range. Not trying to start a "which head is best" argument.

I'd be interested in reading about a 10.50 engine build, that was less than $10k, in which the builder/buyer had to buy every engine part, including block, heads, cam, intake, carb, etc.

[t money]

Also visit or join a forum call ClassRacer.com.

[ponyakr]

Originally Posted by t money

Also visit or join a forum call ClassRacer.com.

http://classracer.com/classforum/forumdisplay.php?f=6

[charlie66]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

No,No,No........... in a car that weight he could do it with a number of combos. Plain jane home ported D ports could get it done. Easy. You could do it on pump gas.
Its 2800lbs man. My buddy runs mid 10s with 62s, 4" stroke crank, 750, Warrior in a second gen Formula.
With a little effort it could be done with factory block,crank, iron heads and good rods and pistons.
There were a few short blocks just sold here that were more than enough to get it done.
I am at 10.90s, pump gas, iron heads, plain TRW 455 with cheap H beams in a all steel, all glass 69 GTO. Give me 2800lbs and I bet I could cover that.
Might have to change gears, big deal. Its a race car.

Ok , so what will it cost then?