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Cool, I would love to see the weight of the cars and type of car.

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Cool, I would love to see the weight of the cars and type of car.
Probably would never see that as then you could calculate the actual power the engine/power-train was putting to the ground and some would not like to have that comparison made. Then all that would be left would be the AERO Effect but that is a major contributor to how well the vehicle travels down the track.

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That's all the info I need.

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Cool, I would love to see the weight of the cars and type of car.
Weight......look at the car........tube chassis, etc. a little common sense will go a long way (for those who know). I thinks whats more important is the weather .10 - .30 can be gained in weather conditions!


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Weight......look at the car........tube chassis, etc. a little common sense will go a long way (for those who know). I thinks whats more important is the weather .10 - .30 can be gained in weather conditions!


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^^^ This George very simple, no b.s involved, no chit stirring. I love all the Pontiacs. How could I tell who has a tube chassis anyway. The weight tells the story. N/A most impressive to me.

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^^^ This George very simple, no b.s involved, no chit stirring. I love all the Pontiacs. How could I tell who has a tube chassis anyway. The weight tells the story. N/A most impressive to me.
Let's not dilute this thread with facts.

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Let's not dilute this thread with facts.
.......yes but that’
May not be all the facts.....! What if one car with the same 7.70ish ET runs the ET in 60 degree weather and the other does the same ET in 90 degree weather, which one is making more HP? You see what I mean! Weight isn’t everything, it’s just part of the equation.



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.......yes but that’
May not be all the facts.....! What if one car with the same 7.70ish ET runs the ET in 60 degree weather and the other does the same ET in 90 degree weather, which one is making more HP? You see what I mean! Weight isn’t everything, it’s just part of the equation.



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Nah, weight pretty much is everything.

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Nah, weight pretty much is everything.
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Not true. But, you know that.

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Nah, weight pretty much is everything.
This IS the statement Jim said it wasn’t true! Get it right!
......and it’s not everything!

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Is this just for the 7 Second Club?
(leaves out a lot of faster cars)



What is Sikgoat's name?
(not sure if he's on the list)

Here's some 7 second Nat. Aspirated runners:

Mark Kauffman 7.027 @ 197.16 mph
Joe Perkins 7.207 @ 183.39 mph
Scott Rex 7.304 @ 187.57 mph
Michael Campolucci 7.36 @ 184.51mph
Frank Gostyla 7.377 @ 182.67 mph
Gary Cygan 7.413 @ 182.87 mph
Jeff Kauffman 7.49 @ 175 mph
Steve Matteson 7.494 @ 178.50
Rod Page 7.499 @ 177.37 mph
Todd Filson 7.54 @ 174.98 mph


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.......yes but that’
May not be all the facts.....! What if one car with the same 7.70ish ET runs the ET in 60 degree weather and the other does the same ET in 90 degree weather, which one is making more HP? You see what I mean! Weight isn’t everything, it’s just part of the equation.



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Go race in 60* weather then.
Got nothing to do with me oh young one.....just making a statement.


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I just stated weight because we all know when your chasing an et, your not going out on a 90 degree day to run your best.
If 2 guys are running 7.70's one guy 2800lbs the other 3600lbs you know who had to put more work in. That would only be a piece of it though. If you notice from Billy's chart, it states if the car is NA, nitrous, or turbo...
Did some guys take the short bus to school with helmets on???

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SIKGOAT ( Billy Carpenters car) 7.22 @ 193 3600lbs, door car. There are cars on the list with power adders 1000lbs lighter.
So who's car is more impressive?? Trust me I have no dog in this fight, but I know Sikgoat is making a lot more h.p. than a 1800 lbs dragster.
They are all cool. A N/A door car running 7's is wicked bad azzz.

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SIKGOAT ( Billy Carpenters car) 7.22 @ 193 3600lbs, door car. There are cars on the list with power adders 1000lbs lighter.
So who's car is more impressive?? Trust me I have no dog in this fight, but I know Sikgoat is making a lot more h.p. than a 1800 lbs dragster.
They are all cool. A N/A door car running 7's is wicked bad azzz.

Who’s car?



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George,IF he dropped his motor and trans/converter in my car he would be more or less 1000lbs lighter. 4 bars more and my car would be 6.0 legal. ....I'd gladly take one for the team..and sit out a year S/ST racing to let Billy go deeeep in the 6's.....When it gets down to it those ECM guys are pretty good guys...sure they talk hella shhhhiiiiiituff but they without a doubt respect all our Pontiacs in 1 way or another...

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