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I personally think weather is some what of a non issue, when people run a personal best it's usually in killer air. I'd wager that almost all the ets/mph post on that chart were done in darn good air in the fall or early spring so i doubt there are huge swings to be seen. Just my opinion.

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I personally think weather is some what of a non issue, when people run a personal best it's usually in killer air. I'd wager that almost all the ets/mph post on that chart were done in darn good air in the fall or early spring so i doubt there are huge swings to be seen. Just my opinion.
Just saying if someone is going to complain about HP in a lighter car or compare two cars they should also consider the weather conditions, some racers can't make it out in mineshaft conditions! I like to compare same day, same track results no WHINING then, takes the guessing out! Thats why I like Norwalk.....it gets most of the who's, who's of Pontiacs out there on the SAME day.


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Just saying if someone is going to complain about HP in a lighter car or compare two cars they should also consider the weather conditions, some racers can't make it out in mineshaft conditions! I like to compare same day, same track results no WHINING then, takes the guessing out! Thats why I like Norwalk.....it gets most of the who's, who's of Pontiacs out there on the SAME day.


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My God George, what would be the real BIG difference? 2 cars running 7.80, one in 85 degrees the other 55 degrees .
Or 1 car running 7.80 at 2200lbs or the other going 7.80 at 3600.
You know the phucking answer you just like to stir th chit!!
As stated before by slowbird, most guys post there fastest time and I'll bet they were all when it was cool out.

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Thank you...you answered my question by not answering my question and whining like a girl.


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Updated. 2207lbs Good lord man what's that thing made of Titanium, Tin foil and carbon fiber?? lol

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Updated. 2207lbs Good lord man what's that thing made of Titanium, Tin foil and carbon fiber?? lol
the other car is .20 quicker. I wonder what it weighs?

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I personally think weather is some what of a non issue, when people run a personal best it's usually in killer air. I'd wager that almost all the ets/mph post on that chart were done in darn good air in the fall or early spring so i doubt there are huge swings to be seen. Just my opinion.
Exactly. If everyone on the list makes a bunch of runs in all different conditions, then that minimizes weather as a variable.

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Normally, but for some of the top fastest Pontiac guys they only run at certain races?
(like Norwalk)

It's never a mineshaft conditions then, usually not good racing conditions.



Look up Rob P posts on here for the original list he started way back.


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The numbers are what they are. That car that day went from a dead stop through the traps and that's it. Weather weight tire size just indicates factors in the equation. Anyone who is running in the 7s with a door car is flying. It's not cheap with a light car just a bit easier than with a tank. How many times you can do this without issues shows tuning ability and correct design.

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Normally, but for some of the top fastest Pontiac guys they only run at certain races?
(like Norwalk)

It's never a mineshaft conditions then, usually not good racing conditions.



Look up Rob P posts on here for the original list he started way back.

Who builds a 7sec door just to run once a year at Norwalk?

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Who builds a 7 second car and not run it?


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Here is a thread on 2004 that Rob P did.
He had a list for quite awhile.
(not just for 7 seconds)

Fastest Pontiacs 2004


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A lot of guys just worry about racing once a year....not sure how many of them "think" they can go sevens.

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A lot of guys just worry about racing once a year....not sure how many of them "think" they can go sevens.
Problem with the top dogs (KRE, Butler, Allpontiac, ETC.) is they are small they can only get out a couple (if they are lucky) times a years because the have a business to run, hence the ET progression is small.


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A lot of guys just worry about racing once a year....not sure how many of them "think" they can go sevens.
Seems like a complete waste of time and money for just 1 race unless you're business revolves around it some how.

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