[The Boss]

Originally Posted by wovenweb

That Ram Air II car sold for $150k(I think that includes buyer's premium because I recall a slightly lower #) at Mecum Indy in 2014. I recall speaking to the then owner who used to have a webpage on the car. I can't find the webpage any more.

Looks like the car has been put up for sale at least 1 other time(Mecum Anaheim 2016) since 2014 with no sale at 90k. A few small items I might debate(routing of brake lines) but reasonably well done restoration.

Bench seat/floor shift(w/o console) saved weight and I've seen a few of them

The II Bird was owned by Joe Cione, a member here for years, Deluxe Bench Seat interior with 4 speed is very (read ultra) rare but a legitimate combination of options, likely the only one of it's kind with a deuce.

Phil Silva owns the car at the moment, bought it from the prior owner who wanted/needed to off some cars.

Unicorn car for many of us, well done restoration with legitimate numbers matching engine. Well known car with a great history.

[wovenweb]

Originally Posted by The Boss

The II Bird was owned by Joe Cione, a member here for years, Deluxe Bench Seat interior with 4 speed is very (read ultra) rare but a legitimate combination of options, likely the only one of it's kind with a deuce.

Phil Silva owns the car at the moment, bought it from the prior owner who wanted/needed to off some cars.

Unicorn car for many of us, well done restoration with legitimate numbers matching engine. Well known car with a great history.

What part of the combination beyond being a Ram Air II car made it rare? The Deluxe part of the bench seat? We know 98 of the 110 were 4 speeds.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by wovenweb

What part of the combination beyond being a Ram Air II car made it rare? The Deluxe part of the bench seat? We know 98 of the 110 were 4 speeds.

The combination of the deluxe bench and 4 speed is rarely seen - unless you can provide even a handful of others you've seen over the years. Like I said, combine that with the RA II and it is likely the only one of the 98 with that combination of options.

You don't need to challenge me on this - I can consider it a good car with an odd combination of options and you can consider it run of the mill - doesn't matter to me.

[wovenweb]

Originally Posted by The Boss

The combination of the deluxe bench and 4 speed is rarely seen - unless you can provide even a handful of others you've seen over the years. Like I said, combine that with the RA II and it is likely the only one of the 98 with that combination of options.

You don't need to challenge me on this - I can consider it a good car with an odd combination of options and you can consider it run of the mill - doesn't matter to me.

Not intending to challenge, the Ram Air II part alone makes it rare car. I've only seen 3 (5 when you include GTOs). Two of the 3 had bench seats and I didn't pay attention to Deluxe versus Standard interior.

What has intrigued me more about this particular car is its struggle to find a home after the sale at Mecum Indy.

[The Boss]

Originally Posted by wovenweb

Not intending to challenge, the Ram Air II part alone makes it rare car. I've only seen 3 (5 when you include GTOs). Two of the 3 had bench seats and I didn't pay attention to Deluxe versus Standard interior.

What has intrigued me more about this particular car is its struggle to find a home after the sale at Mecum Indy.

It has nothing to do with the quality of the car or it's pedigree and everything to do with it's owners. I'm not certain of Phil's reasons for selling it, he didn't quite share them when we had breakfast at MCACN a few months ago, but he is in the process of building a truck stop & family center on some property he owns off the interstate so that may have something to do with it although he may just not be interested in the car. The prior owner, not Joe Cione sold it quickly and cheaply to Phil because he needed the money fast and Phil was willing to give him X dollars quickly.

[PurelyGTO68]

Saw this ad on Phoenix CL. Looks like the car is in Colorado. Always liked the Formulas...
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/c...547084313.html

[thews]

Originally Posted by PurelyGTO68

Saw this ad on Phoenix CL. Looks like the car is in Colorado. Always liked the Formulas...
https://phoenix.craigslist.org/cph/c...547084313.html

Red/red is really uncommon. Nice car, but at $23K it's priced a little high IMO.