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If he isn't Fred Simmonds. I doubt any others had access to ALL Pontiac records. Including PHS that have been known to miss some.

Wasn't there a 74 SD Formula without a X in vin on PHS? Stuff happens...

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If he isn't Fred Simmonds. I doubt any others had access to ALL Pontiac records. Including PHS that have been known to miss some.

Wasn't there a 74 SD Formula without a X in vin on PHS? Stuff happens...
I know the original prototype SD455 T/A that is now in Australia was not an X-code car. But that was a Pontiac in-house mule that eventually got sold off. (I wonder how the restoration on that car is going? We haven't heard anything in a while)

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Hi Steve,
When i bought my car my wife was pregnant with our first child. We had 3 in 3 years after that. 2 boys and a girl. I lost my father early 2017 unexpectedly so that made for an even busier year with my mother and slow year for the car.

I Have continuously been sourcing and buying parts and that can be an exhausting process in itself. Been trying to complete all the parts to make the motor complete and correct. Last few bits were timing cover, water pump, valley pan. Brads put aside some other parts for me like the emmissions piping, pulleys and thermostat housing.
Getting this car correct is a mission in itself with so many one year only pieces but i feel i am on track with where i wanted to be. I hoped for a 10 year resto and i am half way so i have to keep the momentum going.

Parted a wrecked 76 TA that me and dad bought before he passed.

I will have to make an update on the thread soon but haven't really had the time to sit and write and upload pics.
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I know the original prototype SD455 T/A that is now in Australia was not an X-code car. But that was a Pontiac in-house mule that eventually got sold off. (I wonder how the restoration on that car is going? We haven't heard anything in a while)
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Old 05-13-2018, 06:22 PM
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Sorry to hear about your father's passing.

Congrats on the kids. You must REALLY have your hands full now.

We'd love an update on the thread, even if it is to just give a list of parts that you are still in need of. I'd be happy to assist and I know a bunch of other guys here would be as well.

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If he isn't Fred Simmonds. I doubt any others had access to ALL Pontiac records. Including PHS that have been known to miss some.

Wasn't there a 74 SD Formula without a X in vin on PHS? Stuff happens...
I don't think Fred had a color breakdown, but maybe as so few were built.

Is the '74 car finished yet?

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74 SD 4 speed Formula will be at TA Nats. You heard it here first...

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Post by Frank G:
73 SD Formula


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73 SD Formula

Here's the pertinent text from Frank G:

"The reason we have a complete, 100% breakdown for the 73 Formulas and not for the 74's is that, sometime in the mid 90's, an enthusiast had a strong interest in the 73 Formula's. Through hard work and dedication, he was able to obtain all 43 VIN's through communication with each state's DMV. He then ordered the PHS documents for all 43 cars. He allowed me to compile the data on those 43, which appeared in one of the SD Registries, back in the time when they were printed and mailed. I have to believe the opportunity to gather this type of information from the DMV is no longer permitted. PHS, by contract, is not allowed to mine the microfilm for statistics. They are only able to fill orders from customers who provide a VIN. So, we will never be able to obtain a 100%breakdown on the 74's like we have for the 73's."




So the above info prompts the theory that no exported cars would be on this list since they would not have been in the 50-state DMV databases if they were exported when new???

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That's a good question?
Does it also mean there are more than 43 SD Formulas?


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Most likely...Let the hunt begin!

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115k was a bit optimistic at first.

At 60k, If not a Must sale, most likely to be kept for a while and try in a few years.

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74 SD 4 speed Formula will be at TA Nats. You heard it here first...
Is he bringing it to Norwalk (where I first saw it after bringing stateside)? I won't be at the TA Nats.

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