[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

I’m not arguing right or wrong, and yes it would seem he is not going with a larger engine so yes I am wrong (my gosh I’ve been wrong before). I’m sure I’ll bE wrong again and guess what the sun will come up! LOL! You do realize I gave my opinion, going off what I’ve seen on the show! His last 5 races/Laps he made he lost 4 of them. He said he has other ways of dealing with the more powerful/faster car, ok cool. I’m glad he is stepping up to a better head, he should have done it for Indy! I’m not a turbo guy but I do know boost and I do now racecars and I do know Racing! I’ll still say 520+ cubes and a pair of turbos are the way to go.....you can never have too much power! You know there is nothing wrong with giving an opinion (right or wrong) as long as it doesn’t harm someone!!


GTO Geo

Currently, calling the CV-1 a better head than the E head is debatable at best. Until someone makes more power than Mike did NA or Rodney Butler has with his Wide Port twin turbo its kind of hard to do.
In that old closed thread about Bruce calling me out on the CV-1s is was stated that Mike did not switch in part that it was a lateral move, equal. And that guy knows his heads.
Not saying Chiefs new CVs won't make more power than his std E heads, they have 100 more CFM.
They have to be reliable, not burn plugs or crack seats ect. 40lbs of boost can make a small problem a big one real quick.
That will be the test, its a prove it world and Chiefs is a big money world com paired to us po folk.
He just moved up to #1 with a 350 E head, still..........

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Currently, calling the CV-1 a better head than the E head is debatable at best. Until someone makes more power than Mike did NA or Rodney Butler has with his Wide Port twin turbo its kind of hard to do.
In that old closed thread about Bruce calling me out on the CV-1s is was stated that Mike did not switch in part that it was a lateral move, equal. And that guy knows his heads.
Not saying Chiefs new CVs won't make more power than his std E heads, they have 100 more CFM.
They have to be reliable, not burn plugs or crack seats ect. 40lbs of boost can make a small problem a big one real quick.
That will be the test, its a prove it world and Chiefs is a big money world com paired to us po folk.
He just moved up to #1 with a 350 E head, still..........

Better flowing head....the rest we’ll find out, bad or good!


GTO George

[bluegoat65]

Would like to see the new bullet go in the crowmod. You know, to take on Jet Dragsters and such. Pro Mod again?

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

What happened to that big inch "572" ?????? All the CV Patrol was like yeah, see, see..............
Then Chief comes on and sets us all straight. Going smaller yet and keeping E heads until further notice.
Then Bruce Almighty is telling us all about the virtues of short strokes and why its the way to go.
Can not make this stuff.
People here have got on me about mixing it up with "couple" guys 2-3 seconds faster than me. I get it, I really do. Just like to talk engines ect.
Then Bruce comes on and tells all the big dogs about short strokes and why they are better and turbos are the way to go. From driving his wifes 13 sec street car and playing with a home porta tree I guess.
Must have had a 5 min conversation with Q and thinks he gets to suggest things to the fastest of the fastest around here.
Polishing the 59 block would be more useful.

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

Better flowing head....the rest we’ll find out, bad or good!


GTO George

I won't argue with you on this George. Thanks.
More amazing is people don't have a clue what Bill's porting skill level is. Think most actually believe BS posted on pathetic zone. One doesn't work as sole head porter for Sonny Leonard Racing without being among the best of the best.
Yet criticized by many who havn't seen his work or seen CV1 heads.

Bill can do a great E-head or any other head for that matter Dragncar. 😁

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

I won't argue with you on this George. Thanks.
More amazing is people don't have a clue what Bill's porting skill level is. Think most actually believe BS posted on pathetic zone. One doesn't work as sole head porter for Sonny Leonard Racing without being among the best of the best.
Yet criticized by many who havn't seen his work or seen CV1 heads.

Bill can do a great E-head or any other head for that matter Dragncar. 😁

I will agree with you on that one. One doesn't work at one of the top 3 engine shops in the country for 6 years and not know what he is doing..
Sonny's has a lot of championships under their belt... a lot of which have been in the last 6 years.. Pontiac guys live in a small pond but there is a huge ocean out there they know nothing about...
The Pontiac head is not unique.. flow and acceleration are all the same no matter what the brand...
Questioning Bill's ability makes you look like a dumbass... just my opinion as I work with a car that swims in the ocean...

[Aaron Quinton]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

I will agree with you on that one. One doesn't work at one of the top 3 engine shops in the country for 6 years and not know what he is doing..
Sonny's has a lot of championships under their belt... a lot of which have been in the last 6 years.. Pontiac guys live in a small pond but there is a huge ocean out there they know nothing about...
The Pontiac head is not unique.. flow and acceleration are all the same no matter what the brand...
Questioning Bill's ability makes you look like a dumbass... just my opinion as I work with a car that swims in the ocean...

^^^Truth^^^

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by BruceWilkie

I won't argue with you on this George. Thanks.
More amazing is people don't have a clue what Bill's porting skill level is. Think most actually believe BS posted on pathetic zone. One doesn't work as sole head porter for Sonny Leonard Racing without being among the best of the best.
Yet criticized by many who havn't seen his work or seen CV1 heads.

Bill can do a great E-head or any other head for that matter Dragncar. 😁

What does Twin have to do with anything I wrote ? What does PZ have to do with any opinion you "think" I have of him ?
I have heard more sh!t talk around here about the man to tell you the truth.
He did not design the CV did he ?
Very little, if any things I have said about the head have anything to do with Bill.
I made peace with the guy, let it rest.
What I am saying is the head now has to prove it. Has not been done before so proving is not anything out of the ordinary.
Just do it, people will give credit where it is due and I will send you your 50 bucks.
Simple.

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

What does Twin have to do with anything I wrote ? What does PZ have to do with any opinion you "think" I have of him ?
I have heard more sh!t talk around here about the man to tell you the truth.
He did not design the CV did he ?
Very little, if any things I have said about the head have anything to do with Bill.
I made peace with the guy, let it rest.
What I am saying is the head now has to prove it. Has not been done before so proving is not anything out of the ordinary.
Just do it, people will give credit where it is due and I will send you your 50 bucks.
Simple.

... you made peace with me ??? ... when did this happen ??? ... you're an idiot, i would never make peace with someone like you, lmao ...

[Aaron Quinton]

Yep, history setting your opinion. And once any head does well, you'll be the first nut swinger. LOL

Chief, a third nut is coming.

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Currently, calling the CV-1 a better head than the E head is debatable at best. Until someone makes more power than Mike did NA or Rodney Butler has with his Wide Port twin turbo its kind of hard to do.
In that old closed thread about Bruce calling me out on the CV-1s is was stated that Mike did not switch in part that it was a lateral move, equal. And that guy knows his heads.
Not saying Chiefs new CVs won't make more power than his std E heads, they have 100 more CFM.
They have to be reliable, not burn plugs or crack seats ect. 40lbs of boost can make a small problem a big one real quick.
That will be the test, its a prove it world and Chiefs is a big money world com paired to us po folk.
He just moved up to #1 with a 350 E head, still..........

[Anderson Port Development]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Currently, calling the CV-1 a better head than the E head is debatable at best. Until someone makes more power than Mike did NA or Rodney Butler has with his Wide Port twin turbo its kind of hard to do.
In that old closed thread about Bruce calling me out on the CV-1s is was stated that Mike did not switch in part that it was a lateral move, equal. And that guy knows his heads.
Not saying Chiefs new CVs won't make more power than his std E heads, they have 100 more CFM.
They have to be reliable, not burn plugs or crack seats ect. 40lbs of boost can make a small problem a big one real quick.
That will be the test, its a prove it world and Chiefs is a big money world com paired to us po folk.
He just moved up to #1 with a 350 E head, still..........

... you really need to leave Leech out of your posts, because you do not have a clue what he stated to me on the phone many times actually about that topic, a lateral move ?? My ass !!! Was i offering to supply my 572 in ready to run form, YES ... but Mike also totally expected the Bird to go faster with the 572 in the car, and that's a fact, his exact words actually ... but he had prior endeavors under way with other heads that he said he needed to finish before we could run the 572 in his car, and i told him given his car, determination and people he had working with/for him that it was worth it for me to wait, which is exactly what i was doing ...

... you really don't have a clue what you're talking about ...