[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

Not where I was going either. What do they have to offer that is any better than Chevy,Ford or Mopar ?
There has to be some reason/advantage to buying one or they would not be in business.
By "place" I mean where they fit in the racing world?
Myself, I would not even think about buying one if I had that kind of coin. Who cares about "Proline" really. They don't make cars so its sort of like a version of a industrial engine but for racing, I think.

You really should use google before you make a post like this. That is how us keyboard racers would have done it if I didn't already know.

Check out AJPE he should be somewhere in your area.

Stan

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

You really should use google before you make a post like this. That is how us keyboard racers would have done it if I didn't already know.

Check out AJPE he should be somewhere in your area.

Stan

Stan

While you were doing internet searches and posting about them I made it to the finals in Super Pro today, again.
And I would rather ask someone who knows more than me on subjects I am looking to learn about. People over computers, well most of the time.

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

While you were doing internet searches and posting about them I made it to the finals in Super Pro today, again.
And I would rather ask someone who knows more than me on subjects I am looking to learn about. People over computers, well most of the time.

What ever you need to tell yourself to feel good about yourself.

But anyone who has read this thread knows you showed (as normal) your lack of knowledge on just another subject.

I did actually try to help you. Like the old story abut giving a man a fish or teaching him how to fish. But you were just like that horse. While I am sure you do not understand any of this others will.

Stan

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

What ever you need to tell yourself to feel good about yourself.

But anyone who has read this thread knows you showed (as normal) your lack of knowledge on just another subject.

I did actually try to help you. Like the old story abut giving a man a fish or teaching him how to fish. But you were just like that horse. While I am sure you do not understand any of this others will.

Stan

YOU trying to use that analogy is hilarious. I do not need any drag racing knowledge from you.
Who do you help out around here really ?
I have 50 NHRA trophies in my heap. I build the engine, tranny and rear end as well as install suspension. Now just how can you "help me out" ?
I am about to step up in power in a pretty big way. Doing engine and tranny myself. Rear end needs nothing.
You give a bunch of numbers that rarely mean anything to very many people.
Your MO is to quote someone, highlight the one part you find fault with and point it out but in truth you are a troll. A no car computer only troll that hangs out in the race section. Textbook.

[GTO Dan]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

YOU trying to use that analogy is hilarious. I do not need any drag racing knowledge from you.
Who do you help out around here really ?
I have 50 NHRA trophies in my heap. I build the engine, tranny and rear end as well as install suspension. Now just how can you "help me out" ?
I am about to step up in power in a pretty big way. Doing engine and tranny myself. Rear end needs nothing.
You give a bunch of numbers that rarely mean anything to very many people.
Your MO is to quote someone, highlight the one part you find fault with and point it out but in truth you are a troll. A no car computer only troll that hangs out in the race section. Textbook.

Stan is a racer as much as anyone else here and he contributes tech more than most.

He help me with some estimated hp and shift point scenarios.

Most all here have a passion for the racing of our obsolete brand , that makes them racers.

[Scott Roberts]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

What ever you need to tell yourself to feel good about yourself.

But you were just like that horse.

Stan

My dad years ago told me the rest of that story...
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.....
"However, you can sure make him wish he did."

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Scott Roberts

My dad years ago told me the rest of that story...
You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink.....
"However, you can sure make him wish he did."

Scott,
Thanks. While I have had people say that to me and I have used it myself. I never knew there was a second verse.

Stan

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

While you were doing internet searches and posting about them I made it to the finals in Super Pro today, again.
And I would rather ask someone who knows more than me on subjects I am looking to learn about. People over computers, well most of the time.

If you took runner up in s/pro without a delay box only tells me you’re racing against amateurs!! LOL! You wouldn’t last 2 rounds at milan. Just saying.


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

If you took runner up in s/pro without a delay box only tells me you’re racing against amateurs!! LOL! You wouldn’t last 2 rounds at milan. Just saying.


GTO George

George, I understand delay boxes help you out with consistent reaction times. But they still have a human component and can be beat. Its not unusual for me to run my dial or + .01 with a reaction of .010 or better. That will get its share of wins wherever.
Who the he!! do you think you are running down the people at my track and their abilities ? Its been in continuous operation since 1955. How many tracks can say that.
We have a few racers that travel all over the country for big time bracket races. The Judge I posted pics of took home 40,000$ in the Million Dollar Race that Verdi won. He is tough but can be beat. Never raced him in eliminations but have beat plenty of people who have beat him.
I just lost a race to a 10.90 Super Street car. Its a 8 flat car with throttle stop. The race was as close as you could get, got his respect and he was won divisional s.
I cut a .027 and most of the time that gets a win, but he cut a .020. Both ran our dials.

Yesterday I was HORRIBLE. Was going just fine, cut a .013 on last time trial. Then to father of the 10.90 guy along with 3 other sons that all race Fords collapsed. They pit right behind us. Choked on food or had a mini stroke. Had all the fire and ambulance people there. He is going to be OK but my head was not right after that. I do best when I think about absolutely nothing.

[BruceWilkie]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

I do best when I think about absolutely nothing.

I think you've proven that ! 😵

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

George, I understand delay boxes help you out with consistent reaction times. But they still have a human component and can be beat. Its not unusual for me to run my dial or + .01 with a reaction of .010 or better. That will get its share of wins wherever.
Who the he!! do you think you are running down the people at my track and their abilities ? Its been in continuous operation since 1955. How many tracks can say that.
We have a few racers that travel all over the country for big time bracket races.
I cut a .027 and most of the time that gets a win, but he cut a .020. Both ran our dials.

You know NOTHING about racing with a Delay Box!
Im not personally running down the racers at the only track you race at (that just SILLY), I'm just calling it like I see it! If you a Foot Braker can run S/pro and clean theirs clocks as much as you say you do , then it is what it is! Just Saying!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

You know NOTHING about racing with a Delay Box!
Im not personally running down the racers at the only track you race at (that just SILLY), I'm just calling it like I see it! If you a Foot Braker can run S/pro and clean theirs clocks as much as you say you do , then it is what it is! Just Saying!


GTO George

Now George, you leave on the top bulb and punch in your delay, right ?
That means in between the time you first see the top bulb and hit your button there is a human component. Same as when I try and time my release of my Trans brake (don't foot brake anymore, read George, read) to the bottom bulb.
Its the same thing only with a delay user having slightly more control.

I don't clean anyone's clock on a regular basis. I just have some good days and bad ones. Just no stranger to going rounds.
Not actually asking you out here, it would be like me hauling to Norwalk. Not going to happen.
But if you think a good foot braker gets his clock cleaned regularly by racers just because they run a delay box you are NUTS. Its bracket racing with rules designed to make it a level playing field. I got shut down one by a guy on his first ever pass. He had a .004 first time, what do you do with that ?

BTW, you ending every "short post" with "JUST SAYING" is lame, lame and just freaking weak and childish. Its like you can say whatever snarky, crappy and degrading thing you want and make it OK with "just saying".
Its the same thing kids in my school did in the 5th grade. But they would say something snarky and cover it with "no". I knew it was bad behavior then and how is yours different ?
Didn't you ever grow up ??

[adam woodmancy]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

If you took runner up in s/pro without a delay box only tells me you’re racing against amateurs!! LOL! You wouldn’t last 2 rounds at milan. Just saying.


GTO George

You should’ve watched World Footbrake Challenge at Bristol on live feed last weekend. They were laying down packages like it was the million.

And it can be done.. footbraking in an 11 second street car with flip flops and Bermuda shorts on if you know what your doing. The best they can go with those boxes is double 0 and dead on, and I can do that with my feet. Not as consistently as I did in my super pro days, I’ll grant you that, but if you get hot, it just takes a few pieces to fall in place. One lucky round here or there. Box guys get soft against us foot brakers.. they get afraid to go red so they click a few thou in they normally wouldn’t and leave the door open.

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by adam woodmancy

You should’ve watched World Footbrake Challenge at Bristol on live feed last weekend. They were laying down packages like it was the million.

And it can be done.. footbraking in an 11 second street car with flip flops and Bermuda shorts on if you know what your doing. The best they can go with those boxes is double 0 and dead on, and I can do that with my feet. Not as consistently as I did in my super pro days, I’ll grant you that, but if you get hot, it just takes a few pieces to fall in place. One lucky round here or there. Box guys get soft against us foot brakers.. they get afraid to go red so they click a few thou in they normally wouldn’t and leave the door open.

One of the best racers ever at our track was a foot brake guy. He had a Vega with big tires and a 3 link. sbc with less than 500HP. So it would never spin, light, great 60 foots. Car ran just over 10 flat. Good luck trying to beat him. He used the visor and just used the bottom bulb, leaned his head back so that was all he saw. Under .010 all the tame and ran withing .02 of his dial all the time.
He sent so many out of town folks with delay boxes home it was not funny.
I won just as much foot braking it. Its a whole different deal. My T brake broke last year and I finished the weekend foot braking. Fish out of water by now.
There are many, many real fast cars a whole lot nicer than mine that have not won even half as much as me.
But George will tell you they are all amateurs to take away what I have done.
George and Stan are still posers. Just because you raced your wife's 'street car a few times down the track does not make you "a racer for life".
And plenty of people are racers that dont even race or own a car. They live the life. Build engines, port heads ect.

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by Dragncar

There are many, many real fast cars a whole lot nicer than mine that have not won even half as much as me.
But George will tell you they are all amateurs to take away what I have done.
George and Stan are still posers. .

..........GTO George a POSER, do you even know the definition of the word?

A FUNNY story..........I raced with a guy that everytime he won a round (it was because of him) or lost a round (it was never him), another words he never really looked at the REAL reasons for the WINS or LOSES because of that he NEVER got any better (basically he was fooling himself)! Just Saying!


GTO George

[Dragncar]

Originally Posted by GTOGEORGE

..........GTO George a POSER, do you even know the definition of the word?

A FUNNY story..........I raced with a guy that everytime he won a round (it was because of him) or lost a round (it was never him), another words he never really looked at the REAL reasons for the WINS or LOSES because of that he NEVER got any better (basically he was fooling himself)! Just Saying!


GTO George

Thats a typo George, I meant Bruce. You just seem to pile on with those two and I made a mistake. Apologize for that one.
You are a racers racer beyond the crap here.

[Rob B]

Originally Posted by adam woodmancy

You should’ve watched World Footbrake Challenge at Bristol on live feed last weekend. They were laying down packages like it was the million.

And it can be done.. footbraking in an 11 second street car with flip flops and Bermuda shorts on if you know what your doing. The best they can go with those boxes is double 0 and dead on, and I can do that with my feet. Not as consistently as I did in my super pro days, I’ll grant you that, but if you get hot, it just takes a few pieces to fall in place. One lucky round here or there. Box guys get soft against us foot brakers.. they get afraid to go red so they click a few thou in they normally wouldn’t and leave the door open.

Congrats on a helluva weekend!

I "borrowed" the wife's car for a footbrake race this weekend and made it to the finals but didn't close the deal. We were splitting so it really didn't matter anyway!
In the limited times I've ran her car (under 30 passes total) I've now pulled 2- .000 lights with it, once off the brake and Sunday off the foot! I like her car.

[adam woodmancy]

Originally Posted by Rob B

Congrats on a helluva weekend!

I "borrowed" the wife's car for a footbrake race this weekend and made it to the finals but didn't close the deal. We were splitting so it really didn't matter anyway!
In the limited times I've ran her car (under 30 passes total) I've now pulled 2- .000 lights with it, once off the brake and Sunday off the foot! I like her car.

Well done sir 👍

[GTOGEORGE]

Originally Posted by adam woodmancy

You should’ve watched World Footbrake Challenge at Bristol on live feed last weekend. They were laying down packages like it was the million.

And it can be done.. footbraking in an 11 second street car with flip flops and Bermuda shorts on if you know what your doing. The best they can go with those boxes is double 0 and dead on, and I can do that with my feet. Not as consistently as I did in my super pro days, I’ll grant you that, but if you get hot, it just takes a few pieces to fall in place. One lucky round here or there. Box guys get soft against us foot brakers.. they get afraid to go red so they click a few thou in they normally wouldn’t and leave the door open.

Ive been around the block a few times in my 47 years of racing! I started off Foot Braking (I can still so it, I've done it a few times in the car I have now), done that for 20 years or so. Then I was forced (Ok I guess I didn't have to) to go to electronics (per NHRA) they changed the rules. I know all about how good a racer can be Foot Braking........its like anything else the more you do it the BETTER you get (or should)! Ill take my chances with a Foot Braker ALL day long.....its not that they can't ,its..............the odds are with me!
Oh by the way..........GOOD Job!

GTO George

[adam woodmancy]

The odds are definitely in the box guys favor as far as consistently being able to chop down the tree for sure