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Old 07-18-2018, 07:14 PM
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Default 1970 ONLY part , Is Your car correct?

The 1970 Subframe, aside from some welding differences with the 71's etc, are different on the bottom. Have checked this on Norwood and CA cars and verified it to be correct. I assume there are Plenty of restored 1970 Birds with the "wrong" year Subframe. Its a ton of work to replace one on a done car, and most will say, who cares?. Its JUST Information...
FWIW .. Repaired cars could have a newer subframe from a dealer even. Note the "frame shop welders or equipment actually Sucked IMHO.

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Old 07-18-2018, 09:47 PM
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Verified, both of mine are correct.

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Old 07-18-2018, 10:00 PM
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I have a 6 24 70 dated frame that is like the one you have labeled "71-74". It came from a '70 Esprit. So perhaps it was a late in the model year change....

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5D Van Nuys Formula, has the first one pictured.

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I'm actually (slowly) stripping my subframe and hope to have it blasted saturday morning;
IIRC there was a thread either earlier this year, or late last year which said that a partial vin was stamped on it - I was going to use that to verify if this is my original subframe (now I just need to find that thread!)...

Yay for a '70 subframe ID!!
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Old 07-19-2018, 03:43 AM
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I have a 6 24 70 dated frame that is like the one you have labeled "71-74". It came from a '70 Esprit. So perhaps it was a late in the model year change....
Date on the rear DS side of the frame?
The Latest I have verified was a 05D , like the one above.. I assume things changed for the new model year, but not sure when.

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Did a blind guy weld these ?

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for the record mine is 06A

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Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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1971 Firebird Esprit with 8,043 original miles.
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Mines right..

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1971 Firebird Esprit with 8,043 original miles.
jeeze-louise!?

in fourty-seven years, no-one has really taken the time to enjoy that car!!

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1970 Formula 400
Carousel Red paint on Black standard interior
A no-engine, no-transmission, no-wheel option car.
Quite likely one of few '70 Muncie three speed Formula 400's left.


1991 Grand Am: 14.4 @ 93.7mph (DA corrected) (retired DD, stock appearing)
2009 Cobalt SS: 13.9 @ 103mph (current DD; makes something north of 300hp & 350ft/lbs)
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