[JMB36TA]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

LOL! Yet there are thousands of original, low mileage, collector cars out there running on their original tires with no issues what so ever. I alone have and have had several. It all depends on how it was stored. PERIOD! I have an NOS pair of Goodyear Speedway redline tires dated 1972. They are perfect and I would not have any concern at all running them at 70mph on an interstate.

I've seen cars cross the block at Barett Jackson with their original tires. From my understanding my car was sitting in a collection and not driven much. I know it was stored in a climate controlled environment so the tires should be fine, but it could be a manufacturer default. I just don't know. I planned on replacing the tires simply because I don't know their history, and I want to replace the BF Goodrich with the Goodyear Polyglas E70/14's.

[HWYSTR455]

It's simply age, doesn't matter if it was in a climate controlled enviro, it would have to be a completely oxygen-free enviro to prevent breakdown.

You don't have to take my word for it, just look at the manufacturers and OEMs, USDOT, NHTSA, and others, they say the same thing. Just drive down the highway for a few miles and look at the shoulders littered with shreded tires, that should give you a clue.

Crossing the auction block is a lot different than driving on the highway at 70 mph. But again, if you're comfortable with that, it's totally up to you.

The gene pool needs a cleansing occassionally, and we've all seen the shows/movies of people doing stuff that they thought was perfectly safe.

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[Chief of the 60's]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

It's simply age, doesn't matter if it was in a climate controlled enviro, it would have to be a completely oxygen-free enviro to prevent breakdown.

You don't have to take my word for it, just look at the manufacturers and OEMs, USDOT, NHTSA, and others, they say the same thing. Just drive down the highway for a few miles and look at the shoulders littered with shreded tires, that should give you a clue.

Crossing the auction block is a lot different than driving on the highway at 70 mph. But again, if you're comfortable with that, it's totally up to you.

The gene pool needs a cleansing occassionally, and we've all seen the shows/movies of people doing stuff that they thought was perfectly safe.

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All in the business to push products for a kick-back. Just like Sfi certs. Tell me, do you change your seat belts every 2 years? Look that up.

[HWYSTR455]

Originally Posted by Chief of the 60's

All in the business to push products for a kick-back. Just like Sfi certs. Tell me, do you change your seat belts every 2 years? Look that up.

https://www.chaliklaw.com/defective-...-tire-failure/

"Car accidents are far too common but some can be prevented. According to safecar.gov, nearly 11,000 accidents a year are caused by tire failure."

I bet those people who died from tire failures had no connection to kick-backs.

This is a futile debate. As I said before, if YOU are comfortable with driving on old tires, that's entirely up to you.

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[HWYSTR455]

Seat belts are different, and replacement intervals are different for passenger cars and race cars.

Passenger cars:

"Some safety experts advise having seat belts inspected and possibly replaced after 10 to 15 years of use. "

'Possibly'. In the event of an accident, they should be replaced, since they are considered a one-time use thing:

"It’s adviseable to replace any seat belts that were in use during a crash to ensure the belts will offer the same measure of protection should a collision occur in the future. Some manufacturers also recommend changing all of the safety belts in the vehicle, even if they weren’t in use at the time of the crash."


Race cars, per SFI and NHRA guidelines:

"For SFI belts the expiry is 2 years and they do this because of the deterioration of the nylon webbing as noted below."

Race cars are different because of the extreme environment/use.

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[JMB36TA]

Tires fail for many different reasons. Like I said in an earlier post, the tires on my 02 T/A are 9 years old and run fine and hold air fine. BUT, I've had to replace tires sooner for one reason or another, mostly because of dry rot from sitting in 100+ degree Arizona summers. They lasted longer since I've been able to keep it in a garage and out of the sun. There's no debate that everything deteriorates over time but the rate can be determined by usage and climate. Tires are a consumable product and I always keep an eye on them. When they need replacing I replace them for whatever reason.

[HWYSTR455]

Run fine and hold air, UNTIL they fail. You do a 100+ MPH blast, it can exceed the limits of the tire in it's current condition, and can fail. It's a risk. If you're comfortable with that risk, then it's entirely up to you.

All I'm saying is, tires do expire, tires do become compromised with age, and there is a risk with old tires.

In this case, where you have a 'wobble', guess what? It's probably the tire. And all I asked was how old they were. If the tire is of questionable condition, then, it's most likely the tire causing you issue. It's just common sense. Deductive reasoning.

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[JMB36TA]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

Run fine and hold air, UNTIL they fail. You do a 100+ MPH blast, it can exceed the limits of the tire in it's current condition, and can fail. It's a risk. If you're comfortable with that risk, then it's entirely up to you.



All I'm saying is, tires do expire, tires do become compromised with age, and there is a risk with old tires.



In this case, where you have a 'wobble', guess what? It's probably the tire. And all I asked was how old they were. If the tire is of questionable condition, then, it's most likely the tire causing you issue. It's just common sense. Deductive reasoning.



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Anything is fine UNTIL it fails. I don’t disagree with that. I’m saying that I don’t know how old they are, I haven’t checked the date code. All I can say about them is that they look like they’re in good condition with no visible signs of wear or defects. I’ll know for sure if it’s a tire when they’re rotated and I drive it. I honestly hope it’s a tire and not something like bad bearings. I was planning on replacing the tires anyway so it’s not anything new I have to replace.



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[Navy Horn 16]

Originally Posted by HWYSTR455

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This is a futile debate. As I said before, if YOU are comfortable with driving on old tires, that's entirely up to you.

I've really seen it all now. The same guy who tells a bunch of us that our transmissions are doomed to failure because of "metallurgy", now claims that tires have a near infinite service life.

Some jokes just write themselves.

Maybe he will do us a favor and do some high speed runs on those 35 year old tires before the next transmission discussion?