[tom s]

Just like the inexpensive iron pontiac block.ROI is just not there.If I can get my hands on the molds I will get maybe a dz done.At that rate the cost for casting and machine work is high.If you could run a 100 or so at one time it would come down but you have a lot of money tied up.If you make a serious biz then the product liability insurance comes into play along with the prop 65 BS we go thur here.If you sent the molds to China and did a bunch the cost would come down even more but quantity would have to go up and then a whrse to store them,package and ship.Baby steps at this time.Tom

[mgarblik]

Originally Posted by tom s

Just like the inexpensive iron pontiac block.ROI is just not there.If I can get my hands on the molds I will get maybe a dz done.At that rate the cost for casting and machine work is high.If you could run a 100 or so at one time it would come down but you have a lot of money tied up.If you make a serious biz then the product liability insurance comes into play along with the prop 65 BS we go thur here.If you sent the molds to China and did a bunch the cost would come down even more but quantity would have to go up and then a whrse to store them,package and ship.Baby steps at this time.Tom

Agree with Tom on this one. IMO, a "large run" would be about 50 manifolds. It would probably take a few years to move that many. If you really think about it. How many Pontiac people are left out there willing to invest $4000.00-4200.00 on an induction system? My numbers come from Tom's projected $2000.00 for the manifold, the cost of 2 proper carburetors, linkage, air cleaners, fuel lines, water neck. It would all add up pretty quickly. Honestly don't know if there are 50 Pontiac fanatics willing to do this. Although it would fit a GTO, the primary market is pre-1964 full size cars. Not allot of them left.

[Mike Davis]

Originally Posted by mgarblik

Agree with Tom on this one. IMO, a "large run" would be about 50 manifolds. It would probably take a few years to move that many. If you really think about it. How many Pontiac people are left out there willing to invest $4000.00-4200.00 on an induction system? My numbers come from Tom's projected $2000.00 for the manifold, the cost of 2 proper carburetors, linkage, air cleaners, fuel lines, water neck. It would all add up pretty quickly. Honestly don't know if there are 50 Pontiac fanatics willing to do this. Although it would fit a GTO, the primary market is pre-1964 full size cars. Not allot of them left.

Running Nostalgia Super Stock in a Pontiac only leaves you with a few choices for intake and carbs. Either a Single AFB, 2x4 intake with AFB/Edelbrocks or Tri Power with Rochesters. Not a lot of intake choices for the 2x4 guys. I run a Wenzler and with the amount of work it took to get it to fit, welding up all the porosity holes, 1/2lb of Moroso A/B Epoxy, Making a top plate, hours of port work, I think a bathtub would be worth it. Even better if it had a GM part number on it.

Using Tom's 2K, add a couple 750 E-carbs, I think you could put something together around 3K.

With Nostalgia Races getting bigger I think you could move a few. Plus this thread has already had 3K+ views. (Maybe its just me and Tom that keep clicking on it)

What about casting without the water cross over?

Does anyone know the height or could measure from sitting on a bench to the carb mounting? I think if it is shorter than the Wenzler/Nash set ups then that open up a lot more people that may be interested as they can run a stock GTO hood.

[mgarblik]

I think making this manifold is a super cool idea. Not trying to talk it down in any way. I want one! Just personally don't think there is a market for 100+ of them. But I have certainly been wrong plenty of times. Not a deal breaker, but I would certainly prefer mine with a water crossover. If you don't want one. Hack saw it off. Much easier to remove it than try to cobble one on a manifold that doesn't have it.