[thews]

77 Can Am for $4500 BIN in CA. Claims to have rust, but has the bottom fallen out for these cars? I always liked them.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1977-Pontia...cAAOSw~b1dvHhf

[keith k]

Originally Posted by thews

77 Can Am for $4500 BIN in CA. Claims to have rust, but has the bottom fallen out for these cars? I always liked them.

Not just "claims" to have rust.... from the picture, it clearly has it -- and a lot of it.

This one has the 2-tone red/white interior, which is my favorite on a Can Am.

I wouldn't say the "bottom has fallen out" on Can Ams (well, on this one it sort of is from rust ). It's just that they're expensive to restore due to fewer good parts available than for say, a '64-'72 GTO, and the values of restored ones make it hard to justify the investment. So a car needing a lot of parts/work like this one is a tough sell.

And, since this one was sold new in CA, it has the Olds 403 engine, which is generally a bit less desirable to some Pontiac folks than the 49 state cars with the Pontiac 400s.

[thews]

Originally Posted by keith k

Not just "claims" to have rust.... from the picture, it clearly has it -- and a lot of it.

This one has the 2-tone red/white interior, which is my favorite on a Can Am.

I wouldn't say the "bottom has fallen out" on Can Ams (well, on this one it sort of is from rust ). It's just that they're expensive to restore due to fewer good parts available than for say, a '64-'72 GTO, and the values of restored ones make it hard to justify the investment. So a car needing a lot of parts/work like this one is a tough sell.

And, since this one was sold new in CA, it has the Olds 403 engine, which is generally a bit less desirable to some Pontiac folks than the 49 state cars with the Pontiac 400s.

Odd that a CA car would have a lot of rust? I didn't know the CA cars has Olds engines.

[Baron Von Zeppelin]

Its definitely a 403 car , and still has an Olds engine.
And the oddball breather pan arrangement.

Just pointing out that i don't think it came with Red Seats.
It has white plastic seat backs and belt retainers.

Mine had White with Firethorn appointment interior.
The seats were white, i bought it from original owner in 1988
Maybe there was more than one version of the appointments, but white seatbacks and belt retainers on red seats looks too crappy to be stock issue.

Colorado was rough on that car
403 car in that condition is a really tough sale at that price

[keith k]

Originally Posted by Baron Von Zeppelin

Its definitely a 403 car , and still has an Olds engine.
And the oddball breather pan arrangement.

Just pointing out that i don't think it came with Red Seats.
It has white plastic seat backs and belt retainers.

Mine had White with Firethorn appointment interior.
The seats were white, i bought it from original owner in 1988
Maybe there was more than one version of the appointments, but white seatbacks and belt retainers on red seats looks too crappy to be stock issue.

Colorado was rough on that car
403 car in that condition is a really tough sale at that price

Ah... you're right. I hadn't looked that closely -- just saw white and red. Seats would likely have been white, too.

The one I once owned had an all red interior, and when I got the PHS (or whatever they were when they came directly from Pontiac), I got a nice 8x10 glossy of a CA that had white seats. Looked great.

[thews]

Originally Posted by keith k

Ah... you're right. I hadn't looked that closely -- just saw white and red. Seats would likely have been white, too.

The one I once owned had an all red interior, and when I got the PHS (or whatever they were when they came directly from Pontiac), I got a nice 8x10 glossy of a CA that had white seats. Looked great.

Gotta love the groovy red seats with the rainbow center. This would be a fun 4-speed car.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0415-21...ontiac-can-am/

[keith k]

Originally Posted by thews

Gotta love the groovy red seats with the rainbow center. This would be a fun 4-speed car.
https://www.mecum.com/lots/HA0415-21...ontiac-can-am/

Interesting. That car doesn't appear to have a correct dash for a Can Am. But it's not the only one with the rainbow (Can Am stripe colors....) themed seat covers. Here's one I saw at a local show a few years ago...

[A Schab]

For 159 K I would expect the correct master cylinder and alternator to be on the 69 T/A.