[Ogre]

Well, I'm just an old Boomer trying to survive this "crisis." (See photo) My neighbors aren't too happy with my antics either.

I'm trying to follow all of the advice, and also trying to educate myself on all of the reports and differing analyses … very confusing. But the most confusing is "cause of death" numbers.

I hear reports of an 80 year old dying of "complications caused by the Coronavirus." Other reports of a six year old whose death was "caused by Coronavirus." Does any agency, anywhere actually report those deaths which were "caused by the virus" vs. those whose death was caused by "complications caused by the virus"?

I know it's minor point, but in my mind there is a world of difference. And maybe it's just a semantics thing which will be sorted out in the post-mortem (pardon the usage) analysis.

Ogre

[hurryinhoosier62]

Originally Posted by Ogre

Well, I'm just an old Boomer trying to survive this "crisis." (See photo) My neighbors aren't too happy with my antics either.

I'm trying to follow all of the advice, and also trying to educate myself on all of the reports and differing analyses … very confusing. But the most confusing is "cause of death" numbers.

I hear reports of an 80 year old dying of "complications caused by the Coronavirus." Other reports of a six year old whose death was "caused by Coronavirus." Does any agency, anywhere actually report those deaths which were "caused by the virus" vs. those whose death was caused by "complications caused by the virus"?

I know it's minor point, but in my mind there is a world of difference. And maybe it's just a semantics thing which will be sorted out in the post-mortem (pardon the usage) analysis.

Ogre

Pat, this is why all the mortality stats need to be taken with a grain of salt. Many experts are pointing to the flu stats from this winter; how many deaths attributed to the "flu" were actually COVID-19 deaths? Likewise, how many "flu" infections were actually COVID-19 infections? Will we ever know? Probably not. The same would go for COVID-19 complication deaths. You just may be on to something with the flight helmet and O2 mask. A 3D company in Italy has a program that converts full face scuba masks into emergency C-PAP respirators. You may have just created a gold mine!

[Ogre]

Originally Posted by hurryinhoosier62

Pat, this is why all the mortality stats need to be taken with a grain of salt. ... You may have just created a gold mine!

Yeah, but this one is custom fitted (both mask and helmet) for ONLY one face, Steve. I doubt if I could sell it.

As far as mortality rates, it is very confusing, and I am beginning to wonder if ANYBODY really has a good handle on it. With recurring reports now coming out about the extreme hush-hush numbers of actual deaths in China, I really don't know what to believe.

BTW, do you have a good source for O2 bottles with the military fitting on them? It's hard to breath through this thing, even without the CRU-60P connector … lol.

Ogre

[bird72]

A Map / Tracking tool by Microsoft, the "big picture" (as best on available data). FWIW

https://www.bing.com/covid/local/unitedstates

[misterp266]

Massachusetts pushed the stay home date out to May 4th. Only essential businesses can be open. I have a feeling it will be pushed out further before we’re done. And a lot of “non” essential businesses won’t be reopening again.

[hurryinhoosier62]

Originally Posted by Ogre

Yeah, but this one is custom fitted (both mask and helmet) for ONLY one face, Steve. I doubt if I could sell it.

As far as mortality rates, it is very confusing, and I am beginning to wonder if ANYBODY really has a good handle on it. With recurring reports now coming out about the extreme hush-hush numbers of actual deaths in China, I really don't know what to believe.

BTW, do you have a good source for O2 bottles with the military fitting on them? It's hard to breath through this thing, even without the CRU-60P connector … lol.

Ogre

I'll call a few of my buddies still on active duty to see if we can set you up. As far as China's actual mortality rate, I used Italy's transmission rate and mortality percentage as my baseline. I came up with 2.5 million infections and 292,450 deaths. I calculated this based on China's full population (1.428 billion). It's probably not accurate but neither are the numbers coming out of CCP. Using the CDC numbers, the U.S. has had a mortality rate that varies between a low of 1.3% of infections to a high on 2.0% of infections, but as this thing climbs toward peak infections these stats will change dramatically.

[sdbob]

Our parish priest tested positive. He had nausea,loss of appetite. Is expected to recover. He only has one lung though.

[bird72]

Finger poke anti-body test may be out in weeks. They reference back to work implications, also TX aspect they mention.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/quick-fin...205900647.html