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09-16-2020, 11:42 AM
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The Johnny Duncan 4th GT Bird
The GT car I wanna look at next has been most recently driven by John Agneta & Sean Pickett. I've seen it referred to as the Johnny Duncan car. Some pics I have were taken when Johnny was driving the car. His #3256 is on the windshield. The car also shows up, under Johnny's name, on the Auto Imagery site.
I'm not sure of this, but another pic I have was said to be of a car that Sam Biondo was driving. Auto Imagery does indeed show a very similar looking car, under his name. So, until/unless I find out different, I'll assume it is the same car. That means that Sal & Peter Biondo probably also drove it some. So, the car probably made LOTS of races, while the Biondo's were racing it. Anyhow, it shows up on DRC as a '95 model, with Johnny Duncan driving, in 2008. 4/25/08 - Southern Nats - #53 - .860 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 5/16/08 - Thunder Valley Nats - #31 - .663 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 4/17/09 - Southern Nats - #45 - .854 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop 7/19/14 - div 3 race - #56 - .538 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop 9/19/14 - Northern Sports Nats - #49 - .609 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop 6/19/15 - Thunder Valley Nats - #22 - .384 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop Next I'll post some links from when John Agneta was driving it. I assume that Sean Pickett & John Agneta owned the car, at that time. Another Pontiac GT racer posted that when John Agneta drove it, the car had a 4X head 400 in it. http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...&postcount=314 http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...4&postcount=18 10/11/15 - Dutch Classic - #45 - .815 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop At this race, Sean Pickett was driving it, listed as a '96 model. At that race, John Agneta was listed @ #27, driving a '98 Bird. That was said to be the Phil Monteith "Hatari" Bird, which most Pontiac guys are familiar with. 8/19/17 - div 1-6 - #23 - .745 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop 10/6/17 - Dutch Classic - #30 - .710 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop 8/18/18 - div 1-6 - #12 - .797 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 5/26/19 - div 1-1 - #42 - .689 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 8/3/19 - div 1-4 - #30 - .763 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop The car just ran at the 2020 Class Racer Nats, driven by Sean Pickett. |
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#2
09-16-2020, 12:33 PM
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The Phil Monteith 4th Gen Hatari !
Well, I was gonna post some DRC lists of races where this car did good. But, it is such a well known car, & so much has been written about it that I decided not to post a bunch of lists.
I think Peter Biondo won 4, of his 5 national SS championships driving mostly this car. During that process, he obviously won LOTS of div races & national events. Because of all those wins, I assume this car has probably won more races than any other Pontiac powered SS car, ever. There have also been several other drivers, including Sam & Sal Biondo, John Agneta, probably several others I'm not aware of. Phil Monteith probably made a few passes in it, himself. The car was just in the Class Racer Nationals race. Sal Biondo was driving, & made it to the semi-final round. So, it's still a very competitive SS car. I think it ran a 400 for years, then switched over to the alum head 428. Phil Monteith has had a lot of success with his Hatari Birds. I think he also either supplies, or has a hand in, the engines in the Agneta & Pickett 4th gen, & the Biondo Stocker. May not be the quickest engines, but they have proven to provide reliable, competitive power, for many years now. So, hat's off to Phil Monteith, for his contribution to Pontiac powered class racing !  I've seen it listed as a '98 & a 2000, for sure. Assume that would depend on which front cap the car had, at the time. Also assume there has only been one 4th Gen Hatari. But, obviously I don't know that, for sure. |
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#3
09-16-2020, 05:32 PM
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Small Body GT Cars
The body rules for GT are quite liberal. The small body cars, such as the Sunfire & Cobalt can be used. Front wheel drive cars can be converted to rear wheel drive.
From the GT section of the 2020 NHRA rule book: "...Reserved for foreign and domestic factory-production two-door coupes, two-door sedans, sports cars, convertibles, or station wagons with any production V-8 engine of the same make. Year of engine optional. Engine V-8 only; must be same make as body. Year optional...Corporate engines permitted. Truck engines prohibited..." I consider the word "make" to mean either Chevy, or Pontiac, or Buick, or Olds, or etc. But, apparently, NHRA interprets it to mean either General Motors, or Ford Motor Corp, or Chrysler Corp, or etc. So, using THAT interpretation, it means that any GM V8 listed in the NHRA classification guide, could be used in any GT legal GM body. That's why a 428 Pontiac engine is legal in a Chevy Cobalt. I suppose it would also be legal in a Camaro, Corvette, Nova, or Chevy wagon, as well as many Olds, Buick, & Caddy models. The 428 Pontiac is not a "corporate" engine, but it IS from the GM "make". Don't know why they don't just make the rule clear by saying any NHRA legal Super Stock GM V8 in any GT legal GM body. But, whatever. Pontiac V8 engines are legal in most GT legal GM bodies. If the engine claimed was available ONLY with a manual trans, then that engine can NOT be claimed in a GT car, if using an auto trans. Same goes for engines that came ONLY with an auto trans. Can't be claimed in a manual trans GT car. The '77 350 & '79 400 Pontiac engines are examples that come to mind. We all know that the '79 400 came ONLY with a manual trans. The '77 350 came ONLY with an auto, according to NHRA. Sal Piacentini & Mike Morgan have done really well with that engine, in SS. http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...3&MAKE=Pontiac So, anyhow, we'll look closer at 4 of the "small body" Pontiac powered GT cars. |
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#4
09-16-2020, 06:14 PM
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Don Kennedy GT Sunfire
Since Don Kennedy pretty much wrote the GT rules, I'll begin with his car 1st. I think it's usually listed as a 2005 Sunfire.
I think it has always run the alum head 428. I don't think it has run in the 8's(not positive), but it has run in the very low 9's, many times. Has qualified near the top of lots of Q-sheets, & has won class at the US Nats. I'll post a few lists. Don has also posted links to quite a few videos of the car in action. Will try to look up some of those & post links. But, they are probably easy to find on YouTube. I'll begin with his GT/EA class win at Indy, 2019. He ran a 9.177 @ 144.18 mph, for the win. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop The 1st year he ran the car was 2009. It ran in the GT/AA class back then. 10/29/09 - Vegas Nats - #50 - GT/AA - 1.078 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop 11/7/09 - div 7-7 - #18 - 1.179 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop 10/28/11 - Vegas fall nats - #8 - 1.031 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop 11/5/11 - div 7-6 - #2 - .980 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop 2/25/12 - div 7-2 - #2 - .949 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop 3/25/12 - div 7-3 - #6 - .905 under - Race Winner !  https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop 3/31/12 - Vegas Summit Nats - #3 - .947 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop 4/5/13 - Vegas Summit Nats - #1 - .951 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 6/1/12 - Englishtown - #7 - .981 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop 10/13/13 - Vegas Pacific SN - #5 - .976 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 10/24/13 - Vegas Toyota Nats - #6 - .972 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 2/24/17 - AZ Nats - #3 - .935 under. There have been LOTS of races where he was in the top 5, but less than a sec under. This year the GT weight breaks were changed. His GT/AA class became GT/EA. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop 5/27/18 - Jegs Sports Nats - #28 - GT/EA Class Winner - He moved from AZ to TN. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 9/1/18 - US Nats - #91 - GT/EA Class R/U. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 8/25/19 - div 3-4 - #4 - 9.093 - 1.007 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 8/31/19 - US Nats - #76 - .923 under - GT/EA Class Winner, as mentioned. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 10/13/19 - Fall Classic - #8 - 9.066 - 1.034 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 6/5/20 - div 2-4 - #2 - 942 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop 8/6/20 - div 3-2 - #1 - .998 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop |
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#5
09-16-2020, 07:15 PM
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McCarty GT Grand Am
I'm sure there have probably been a few Pontiac powered GT cars that I haven't heard about. IIRC, a guy on the Class Racer forum posted about an AFB equipped 389 powered GT car. I think it was an Astre. Not positive. I'd never heard of the car or owner. Couldn't find any info on it.
So, if any of you guys know of other Pontiac powered GT cars that I don't mention in this thread, by all means, post your info. As I've mentioned, there are several guys who have posted here who have raced, & do race these GT cars. They obviously know MUCH more about GT cars than I ever will. Some are willing to add small bits of info, occasionally. So, once again, I invite them to feel free to correct anything I get wrong, and to post anything they think will add good info to the thread. Good GT car pics I don't have are also appreciated. This car has been driven by Stacy McCarty. I assume most of the engine work was done by his dad, Pontiac racer Lynn McCarty. The car is listed, sometimes, as an '05 Grand Am. I think it runs the alum head 428. It also ran GT/AA, before NHRA changed the weight breaks. The 1st year i can find this car on the DRC lists is 2006. It was listed as a 2003 Grand Am, running GT/CA. 7/15/06 - div 3-3 - #40 - 9.853 - .847 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2006#indextop At this race, the car is listed as a 2005 GA, running GT/AA. 9/20/08 - Jegs Northern Sports Nats - #55 - 9.404 - .996 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2008#indextop 10/5/08 - Pro-Am Race @ Osceola - SS Win !  http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...88&postcount=1 9/5/09 - US Nats - #108 - 9.344 - 1.056 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2009#indextop 9/4/10 - US Nats - #53 - 9.25 - .850 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2010#indextop 9/3/11 - US Nats - #24 - 9.149 - .951 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop 4/28/12 - div 3-1 - #12 - 9.145 - .955 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop The car had an engine explosion & wreck @ the 2012 US Nats.  http://forums.maxperformanceinc.com/...20&postcount=3 10/5/19 - div 3-6 - #34 - .696 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 8/6/20 - div 3-2 - #42 - .663 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop Apparently the car has been painted gray. Or, that might be gray primer. Don't know. https://www.autoimagery.com/search?I..._ACT=usrSearch |
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#6
09-16-2020, 08:04 PM
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The Quickest Pontiac Powered GT Car
This car is a Cobalt, powered by an alum head 428. It has run 8.90 & won it's GT/AA class at Indy, 2 years in a row. It's raced by Robert Cruzen Sr.
Car seems to run 9-teens easily, with some left in reserve. Don't really know how quick it could go, if there was not the fear of an NHRA hp "hit". Not sure exactly when he put the Pontiac engine into the little Cobalt. The earliest I've found it is at the div 7 race in 2011. It was already quick, turning a 9.32. But, he would wring more out of it, in the months that followed. 3/26/11 - div 7-2 - #2 - .949 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Ran a 9.035 @ Indy, which was 1.065 under & good enuff for #5 position, & won the GT/AA class.That was a pretty awesome performance for a Pontiac powered SS car ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop Also won GT/AA at Vegas, in Oct. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2011#indextop 2/15/13 - Winter Nats - #3 - 9.141 - .959 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 2/28/13 - div 7-1 - #1 - 9.068 - 1.032 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 3/2/13 - div 7-2 - #1 - 9.164 - .936 under - Made it to semi. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 3/30/13 - div 7-3 - #3 - .940 under - Won the race ! - Cut a perfect .000 light in E-4.https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 4/6/13 - Vegas Summit Nats - #2 - .947 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2013#indextop 3/3/14 - div 7-1 - R/U in an All-Pontiac final. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2014#indextop 9/5/15 - US Nats - #24 - .971 under - GT/AA Class Winner @ 9.046 https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop 10/25/15 - Vegas Toyota Nats - #9 - 1.122 under - GT/AA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop 11/12/15 - Pomona Finals - #5 - 9.091 - 1.009 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2015#indextop 9/2/16 - US Nats - #11 - 1.200 under - GT/AA Class Winner - 8.90 ET @ 146.13 mph ! https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2016#indextop 4/1/17 - Vegas Denso Nats - #1 - 1.094 under - GT/EA Class Winner - NHRA changed the GT weight breaks. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop 6/18/17 - div 5-2 - #1 - .958 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop 10/26/17 - Vegas Toyota Nats - #7 - 1.033 under - GT/EA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2017#indextop 5/18/18 - Topeka Heartland Nats - #3 - .878 under - GT/DA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 6/10/18 - div 4-5 - #2 - 9.063 - .937 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 6/17/18 - div 5-1 - #2 - .875 under - SS R/U. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 10/25/18 - Vegas Toyota Nats - #5 - .971 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2018#indextop 6/7/19 - Topeka Heartland Nats - #6 - .889 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 6/16/19 - div 5-1 - #1 - .993 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 10/31/19 - Vegas Dodge Nats - #15 - 1.015 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 11/14/19 - Pomona Finals - #7 - .933 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop Well, hey, this is the quickest Pontiac powered GT SS car ever. It qualified in the top 5 or top 10 lots of times that I didn't post. Wish it had a Pontiac body. But at least it does have Pontiac power !
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09-16-2020, 08:28 PM
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Irvin Johns 428 Cobalt
Another little 428 powered Cobalt has been driven mostly by Todd Frantz. I think Todd is part of a racing partnership between him & Irvin Johns. I know they run 2 cars, maybe more. Irvin drove the Pontiac powered car some this year.
Here's what a fellow Pontiac powered GT racer posted. "...Todds cobolt has a 428 built by Jeff Taylor car owned by Irvin Johns." With this car, Todd won the GT/FA Class at Indy last year, with a 9.188/143.80 run. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 5/7/19 - div 3-1 - #5 - .915 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 5/18/19 - div 3-2 - #5 - .939 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 7/7/19 -div 3-3 - #7 - .881 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 7/13/19 - div 3-4 - #3 - .944 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 8/31/19 - US Nats - #30 - 1.067 under - GT/FA Class Winner. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 9/22/19 - Jegs Sports Nats - #15 - .894 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop 7/19/20 - Jegs Sports Nats - GT/EA Class R/U - Irvin actually went quicker than Don Kennedy, but got treed. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop 8/6/20 - div 3-2 - #5 - .951 under. https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2020#indextop https://autoimagery.photoshelter.com...twlzA--&GI_ID= |
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09-23-2020, 12:57 PM
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