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Old 12-22-2020, 11:53 PM
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what a car , and Canadian too, soo cool. hey i thought it was a rumor that gto judge spoiler trunk rods are different, but that phs docs says the rods are special? i figured it was just a myth?

also what is official definition of a pattern car? that is soo cool you know the stripe color, i've never seen that documented!

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Old 12-23-2020, 12:27 AM
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There are six versions of pattern cars, they are best described as the initial cars produced by PMD where they selected the options to create a desired initial image for the car.

Basically they all had the following options... judge option (of course), power steering, power disc brakes, console, soft ray on all windows, deluxe seat belts, AM radio, remote mirror, rally gauges+clock, safe-t-track (HD version except if AC).

In addition there were three transmissions possible, standard 3 speed manual, optional 4 speed manual (either manual trans car had hood tach) or automatic. Lastly you could order AC.

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Old 01-05-2021, 12:47 AM
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Very cool Judge!
I have a 69 Carousel Judge as well with a build date of January 29, 1969
Also a friend of mine 15 mins away from me has a Jan 23, 1969 Carousel Judge! Both our cars are Baltimore 4-Sd Judges!
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Old 01-05-2021, 10:32 AM
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Your Judge is also a very early non-pattern car, I’m basing that on the snippet of the first option; a rear defogger.

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Old 01-05-2021, 11:34 AM
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I'm going to guesstimate it was a Pattern+Plus .
From it being a Zone Order

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Old 01-05-2021, 12:20 PM
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Yup the Canadian cars needed them!
Mine actually is a radio Delete Judge, Id love to get a block off plate and put it back to stock as a an/fm was added along with antenna.
It’s cool that I know from Veh. History that back in 1977 our Club President Peter M was the owner and also others who are big time Pontiac guys in our sport. I don’t have the original Ram Air III in it as he raced it with a IV
My engine is a stock 69 400 with #48 heads that runs great but I will be building something for it with a little more as I have Mike Voycey’s 722 heads that flow 280cfm. So if anyone out there has a SR block or WS I would be interested, Don’t really want to touch this 400
Also hopefully the world gets back to normal some day so Norwalk can happen again!
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